This topic was hot in Makkez blog the other day and I wouldn’t have paid much attention to it because it is obvious that stupid followers exist everywhere. Even if I get in trance tomorrow and claim that I’m actually Lord Buddha, then I would have at least 10 stupid fucks following my back thinking I’m Lord Buddha. That’s how naive some people can be. They can’t even differentiate between reality and spiritualism.
Whatever I’m going to convey over here is based on my own understanding about this topic and do not relate to any others opinion. It is purely on what I believe is divine.
Let me start:
See, the topic as most of you would have read; is about a girl getting possessed in a Muar Kali temple. She is called Muar Kali. I don’t know who really started this shit but it’s been circulating via email.
So Makkez wrote about it:
You can read it further HERE
I couldn’t agree more, and I was happy to see all the other commentators gladly agreed, at least I thought we’re one on this issue at least. Then I saw another comment today, probably from someone who had been worshiping that Kali girl.
And this was my reply:
@kamalbai69:
Your comment is ready for a bash up.
Let me start then. While you may say your understanding about God Kaliamman is quite in depth, let me enlighten you with my knowledge about this topic. I’m devoted to God Kaliamman and to talk about versions of her means talking about all 99 avatars that she has. She do not, I repeat, do no play different roles, but rather move on from the mildest to the most severe version. This is what Hinduism believes.
Chandi – as you say – is not about drinking blood. In fact, show me one picture of Kaliamman drinking blood from her victims. None. From where did you get the ideology that she drinks blood then, she kills the asuras and evils, but in return she do not suck up their blood. There is no denying of fact that there are some scriptures telling that Kali had sucked the evils blood, even so, it was the evils. From when goats and other animals become evils, you stupid fool?
It is because believers like you who blindly follow every thing that some stupid people practice which encourages the girl like above end up claiming she is God Kaliamman. It is because naive people like you who goes and bow down to the young woman above that this type of ridiculous religion practice is being performed. Hinduism is being deviated because of acts like this.
Let me tell you something about trance then. We’re normal human beings. We’re all full of sins and no human is perfect. As being so, how do you explain, God, with all his/her pure form, can enter into a normal human being? What difference there is between a human and God then? Being in trance maybe accurate, but the ‘thing’ that enters inside your dirty body is not God, it’s the spirits. Even you have admitted yourself it’s the spirits that enters the body.
The spirits that couldn’t satisfy themselves while they were living in this world would possess the normal people and get whatever they want. And stupid fucks like you would offer her everything she wants. I would like to see if one day she wants to blowjob your fucking cock, would you give her as a sign of devotion?
And to answer your question, did God Mariamman ask you to walk on fire? Indeed she did not. Then why the hell everyone is practicing that? Because hundreds of years ago, there were stupid people like you who practiced and deviated our belief from what it really is. You guys spread out something like this believing that walking on fire is a sign of devotion, and blind followers followed thinking that it is a sign of devotion.
Hundreds years on, of course there would be another bunch of stupid followers, worshiping a normal human being as being God, and let her drink blood and this would become a larger event in years to come. The next 100 years would see Kali, Chandi, Kateri and every version of her mushrooming in Selangor, Penang and wherever it is. And your son or daughter will call them, Penang Kali or Selangor Katteri. There goes the cycle again.
I challenge you, let me see this stupid bitch in action, and I would slap her so hard and wants to see what she can do. Damn you, you infuriated me that bad, that I would write up a post about this.
Of course , you can come up with all kind of follow up bashing thinking that everyone is entitled to believe what they ‘believe’ ; is true. But then again, we’re talking about one particular topic here, which is Hinduism. I’ve seen hundreds of ways it’s being practiced, and I know how ugly it can get. Well, I might not be that knowledgeable in this topic, but I sure know getting a girl in trance and letting her suck up blood and claiming she is Kaliamman is utter bullshit.
See guys, I’ve never said whatever I say is right while whatever the rest might say is wrong. But every rational thinking person would have common sense. And if you apply even the most basic common sense, you would know the below is ridiculous.
You see this pictures and tell me yourself, is this how it should be? Is this what it is all about? Getting a young girl in trance and let her suck up blood and then worship her? If this is what you really think Hinduism is, then, hear this too, I’m Lord Buddha !
*I will write in detail about this soon (trance and what it is really about)
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I am an indian..i believe in hindu culture….but this thing is juzt fcuking shitt…..its not true…..kali is a form of parvathi…..but more furious…but she only attacks bad arakans(devils and stuff)………………..a goat is innocent…..dat damn mutha fucker is juz acting……………..poor goat……i’ll bet one day goats will drink her blood………bcoz of this idiots hinduidm is being insulted…..fuck dis bitches
this is the prove that show stupid people exist everywhere in this world…
if Kali posess the girl , Kali would not do this all…
i think she has posses by evil/spirit…
waste indian…
Naaa this is not hinduism..this woman is under trance or some sort of hypnotism. And drinking blood has never been any form of worship in any religion n certainly not hinduism!!
godson, tanesh, sai baba and chaya.. ppl, im not saying this coz im supportting this act but.. ask yourself how true hindus are you. You dont trust others acts of devotion, tats OK.. but wat right do you have to swear at others. They don have the right to kill other live beings, same you don have rights to swear or judge other either..
Btw ask ourselves, how many of us cook chicken and mutton during deepavali.. isnt this like that??
I believe this blog should enlighten our society not decriminate ourselves.. such embaressment ppl..
STOP THE INSULT AND BE INTUTIVE
hello bro . intha buttiketta manusanunga sami pera soli oora emathurathu kodumaiyo kodumai . antha kaliamna nera vanthu aadu ratham kudikiralo ilayo muthala ivanunga rathaitha straw pothu ice ktipothu urinjanum . muttal pasangga .tamilan pera naradikave kelambiduranungaya!
Its just an extreme form of worship. WHo are we to say what is wrong or right?
We just have the right to choose not to go the these kind of events in that temple.
ANyway nobody cheats or gets cheated monetarily.
Hi Guys/Girls
Does this temple still exits?
Can I have the directions please?
Advance thanks
WHy RT? You wanna taste raw goat blood?
Ethics differs with cultures and generation. In the past papua new guineans didn’t bury or cremate their dead instead they consume them; so that the dead loved one will live through them.
Ethics evolves, I am a vegetarian and I avoid killing as much as possible. But who am I to judge others? And as far as I know, every religion around the globe has some kind of animal sacrifice in them and Hinduism is no exception. Also, ‘Hinduism’ was a term coined by the British and the Persians, it was never a institutionalist religion but it was always one with an array of beliefs some conforming to the Vedas while others not.
A piece of wisdom from the late Mother Teresa “How can we love God whom we can’t see, when we can’t love those we can see…”
Cheers!
hi coolie, y must u think in such a way.
its still GOD minus the the sacrifice.
we absorb good things and let go things which makes us feel negative.
lets look at positive aspects of things perceptively rather than being
stereo type.
i agree with you. .this temple is in Muar.. just go to the town area and ask around .. the next thiruvila is on 7th – 8th Aug 2010.
Hei guys… looks like tis dn end yet. U guys hear of de new Kalima temple in Johor? Wow! she is so huge n extremely beau guys.. anyone wana view the fotos, do drop me a line. lets have a change of temple here.. Cheers.
these manifestations ask for the type of puja/offering that they want…….some leave it up to you. Think it has something to do with the type of problem that needs to be fixed. So then, how did the sacrifice of animals start?
In this life, everything is tradition. at work, u file documents in a particular order………tradition. Brushing your teeth …..tradition. Putting lights on a tree in the last month of the year…….tradition. going to school……….tradition. Increasing the population………tradition. Surfing the net………tradition. Im not crazy, but think about it………life is a tradition. Some more traditional than others. When some choose to end a tradition, a NEW tradition begins, so where’s the right or wrong? The world is too old for us young ones to understand the “why”. A lot has gotten lost in just accepting traditionally. But really, we shouldn’t have a nasty attitude towards that which we don’t understand. Some things are more easily understood than others. But for argument’s sake…………
i have been started to listening to some speeches on hinduism. he is a hindu preecher krubanantha vaariyaar swamigal. acordingly it is a sin to do this type of things. now tell me about it. why not sacrifice a few hundred humans to the god ? we could reduce the burden on the earth…
superra!!!!!!
suuuperrraaaa……….whr???????
i mean super topic bro-tamilan
God is perfect in every bit of the word. when He made Trees, Oceans, Animals, Man, Woman and everything animate in this world. If it is true that we sin because we eat other animals, why Does Kali drink blood? I’m not condemning Kali.. i believe we are all God’s children. Therefore, Kali is our Mother.
There is no such shit that we must be pure vegetarian. cos, Plants are considered living things too since they perform biological activities like humans (breathing and mating).. so why the fuck we eat vege and say eating chicken is a sin?
u see the paradox here? we are just siding for what we believe without seeing what the real picture is!!
its simple. God gave this world to us. He said ENJOY, KIDS. NO FIGHTING. BE SAFE.. AND KEEP THE PLACE CLEAN.
We got rights to this planet and all of Gods creation. If a lion kills a deer? does it go to hell too? no! then why must only humans go to hell? dont give the the WE HAVE THE SENSE TO THINK shit.. if the lion kills a deer, u think it didnt think ah? it doesnt know is it that it can eat meat only? thats called thinking too.
and about humans getting transed, its a fucked up story. why would the Very Perfection of God, want to enter sum fuckin human? for fun ah?
in the older days, religious rules were made so that people wont go wild and do shit work. the Dinking blood and transed shit is all a vetti pechu (tokok tambah) for the Kenai koomuttai people.
i am a devotee of Sivan. When i pray to him especially in meditation, i can see the world clearly.. and to me, we are all not worthy to even embrace God.. let alone getting transed by God..
if u tend to understand, God is up there smiling at us.. those who kill under God’s name.. i hope to see you fuckaz in hell..
to the smart dude who posted this topic. THanks a lot fren. Great topic.. ^^
hhhmmm….
so sad….
haiyo haiyo, thirenthateh jenmem…!!
all this……NONSENSE !!!. Kaliamman is God a , not a satan who drinks blood neither kill innocent lifes.What is all this la !!!! If at all i meet this lady i’ll give one nicely on her face.
i agree wif u…
The next thiruvila will be on 7 – 8 Aug 2010.. how abt meeting u there.. i would like to see u giving her NICELY on her face..
I recently went to a Kali prayer and must admit that I was horrified at what I saw. There were about 4 -7 people that were in a state of trance that drank the blood of goats and chicken that were sacrified. I was literally sick in my stomach. The first prayer was from Saturday morning till about 18h00 on Saturday evening, this was were all the sacrificing took place. There was a break and another prayer at 24h00 (midnight). I dont know what happened there cos I didnt attend. On Sunday morning was another prayer were the sacrified animals was offered to Kali. Then another prayer where people (public) brought boiled liver, trotters, boiled sheep head etc. this was representative of medical problems that the devotee had with the relevant body part. The trance then threw these offering to the people. I found it very strange and bizarre, something from Ripley’s Beleive It or Not. There was BLOOD EVERYWHERE!!!!
I am a devout hindu that fasts during Purtassi, Shivarathri, Saraswathi & Mariamma paryers, but seeing the sacrifice during the Kali prayer made me raise questions about whether we follow our religious leaders blindly…
Kaliamman is one of the powerful goddess in hinduism…. as far as i know kaliamman is one of the lovable goddess who will destroy the evil from this world to protect her children….. but she only fought with the evil, only fights with the evil…. but not with INNOCENT LIVING BEINGS… would “KALIAMMAN” accept these kind of rituals? I’m not a hindu, forgive me Kali Maa if i’am wrong…. KALIAMMAN IS A GODDESS WHO WILL PROTECT THE INNOCENCE, SHE WON’T DO ANYTHING LIKE THIS…. please explain me guys if i’m wrong because i’m not a hindu….. could anyone tell me why they are doing these kind of rituals to prey for Kaliamman?
I have been a devotee of KALIAMMAN for the past 9 years. I had the believe in her whn i started to pray to her and she had answered to all my prayers. This made my believe and faith in her to become stronger and all this years i neva gave her any BLOOD or GOATS HEAD as a repay. She is the most powerful god which i have known and believ me that whatever it is dont ever test her patience. She gives us hard time and at the same time she knows wats the best for us. KALIAMMAN is a mother to me and as a strong devotee of her i can feel her love and protectiveness. Not only me but most of the people who pray to her tells me the same too. My house is just opposite a KALIAMMAN temple and believe me or not during “Aadi Masam” i could hear her Sallangai sound walking pass by my room window. Not only me heard that but many of the other residence too. There was an incident once where a Murugan temple was having their Thiruvilla and the ratham took place at night. Before the KALIAMMAN temple was found, all the years the Murugan ratham will make a u-turn at the junction. The KALIAMMAN temple was found at the year 2000, and for the very first time without her (KALIAMMAN) permission the Murugan Ratham was about to make its U-turn without the priest of the Murugan temple asking for her (KALIAMMAN) permission. Normally a simple pooja will be done as a permission seeking to make a turn at her (KALIAMMAN) area. Despite the pooja for permission, when the Ratham was in front of her (KALIAMMAN) temple, believe me or not the lights of the Ratham went off. It was a black out for the Murugan Ratham. All the residence there were is shock as she was not there before this n no such thing happened. Soon they realised her (KALIAMMAN) power and right after that year, every year before the Murugan Ratham comes into KALIAMMAN compound, the priest will make a pooja for KALIAMMAN first asking for her permisson. Since that day you will not believe the amount of devotees who will come to participate for KALIAMMAN thiruvilla. Since the past 2 years without fail i will participate in thiruvilla for KALIAMMAN where i will be at the temple for 3 days helping out in the cooking and other wotk. this is how i thank her for all her love and answers which she had given me. Believe me, KALIAMMAN will be an Evil to those who are evil to her and her children. And for the Muar Kali girl, your bad time has start lady and i will meet you soon.
you are absolutely correct…. In my experience… i had so many problems in my life, but every time when i asked her help, i don’t know how it happened …… i could solve all my problems very fast…. I feel like kali maa gave me da strength to face all my problems and i felt i still feel that she’s with me….. some people may see this as a crazy thing but for me the kaliamman is real…. she helps us… she is one of the lovable and kind goddess (as far as i know)….
hi….. that gal is not get a trans of god!!!!! its something else yar…. she is mad… she is the bitch who claim she is kaliamma…. no way… she is stupid.. n the temple people is also a very stupid then her…… sorry for saying this but i dont know why some indians so stupid……
“She gives us hard time and at the same time she knows wats the best for us. KALIAMMAN is a mother to me and as a strong devotee of her i can feel her love and protectiveness.”
Jakkama or whatever amma is a delusional freak!! When something bad happens, people blame government, police or friends and any other idiot they can think off. The never blame their stupid god for not protecting/helping them.
“Not only me but most of the people who pray to her tells me the same too. My house is just opposite a KALIAMMAN temple and believe me or not during “Aadi Masam” i could hear her Sallangai sound walking pass by my room window. Not only me heard that but many of the other residence too. There was an incident once where a
Murugan temple was having their Thiruvilla and the ratham took place at night. Before the KALIAMMAN temple was found, all the years the Murugan ratham will make a u-turn at the junction. The KALIAMMAN temple was found at the year 2000, and for the very first time without her (KALIAMMAN) permission the Murugan Ratham was about to make its U-turn without the priest of the Murugan temple asking for her (KALIAMMAN) permission. Normally a simple pooja will be done as a permission seeking to make a turn at her (KALIAMMAN) area. Despite the pooja for permission, when the Ratham was in front of her (KALIAMMAN) temple, believe me or not the lights of the Ratham went off. It was a black out for the Murugan Ratham. All the residence there were is shock as she was not there before this n no such thing happened. Soon they realised her (KALIAMMAN) power”
Above is another example of Indians stupid believe. Kaliamman get pist off with muruga, ha, ha, maybe kindergarden kids will believe this shit!!! And can hear sallangai and all, if the majlis perbandaran fellow come to demolish it, I’m sure kalima will take off he sallanggai, carry her pavadai and runaway. I wonder why the bulldozer’s engine never stop and majlis guys realize her power. !LOL What a fool!!
@ Don : i think you don’t have a proper religious background…… u may say that u r an atheist so u don’t believe in gods or what ever. If u have a proper religious background or if u r a real atheist u will never ever try to act like this….. u r trying to show that ur ideas r so perfect and no one will be able to argue with u or something like that right? please understand this, nobody wants to argue with crazy idiots because it’s worthless…. religions r nt to be argued they….
Well DOG..oppsss i mean DON, if u dun have the trust in God then u shud not criticise the one’s who does. Well too bad lah if ur Parents neva tought u to have faith in God. By the way from the way u have written ur comments, i can clearly see that u just dun u’stand even a tiny bit what i have written. By the way DON or DOG, it shows that ur either mentally retarded or ur just trying to act SMART which i think ur definately an IDIOT. A kindergarden kid will believe anitin even if im gona tell them that ur an IDIOT they will definately agree with me…Meowww…
Jakkama,
Nice reply from you and just wanna add something..We all been come across this kinda people whom been keep insulting on our GOD and we also keep seeing what is the ending for their arrogants…
and…DON’s comment shows the KEY of his stupidity..Illaya DON KEY sarr ?
Again to stress here, above act by Muar mairayee is a disgusting for all the Amma believers.Kaliamma is Mother with full of Love..Tbis known well by her devotees..
God is merciful & peace promoting.. this is beyond comprehension..
I wish there was an mass orgy at the ending. All that blood made me horny.
i agreed. according to hinduism, we shouldnt kill any liing beings for our sake. god didnt ask us to sacrify animal. im devotee of durga maa n pray to kalima also. kalima oso been came into my dream b4. she never ask to sacrify animal for her also. our indians practice this in such way. i never been sacrify any animal for our prayers, but my god always care of me. som what is the problem.
please lar ppl out there who commented about hinduism. HINDU is an river name and ppl who live near by that river are called Hindu People. this is the actual history. and What ever good deeds that they practice over there is become a way of live and called Hinduism or whatever called. and i don’t think the human being that live at that location would have planned them self to do this kind of bloody sacrifice among them and kill each others… ALL STUPID FOLLOWERS who in time changed all the rules and believes. IF EACH ONE CAN REALISE THEM SELF and BE THEM-SELF, i think everyone can think to be GO’O'D in this world and to others…. and be that GO’O'D…
i am a muarian…nothing much to comment on wat happened at the temple..but i strongly feel that..organization such as HINDU Sangam…MIa..MIc and all other indian related organization should sit down and find a proper clarification on this whole issue…wats the point if all of us just bash each other and the end product is back to zero…other races are arguing about education,economy and social wellness…kadavul engeyum irupar..
this one is papama kot:P
Anbe Sivam…God Is everywhere…Its all in that u worship god and that lady is showing the wrong way….thats bullshit…
My fren just recently asked me if I want to go Segamat Temple with her. It seems same practice. I got so worked up hearing that she going once at least every yr. For what I asked myself? To support the group that kills poor animals? What the writer said is true. Kali kills evil doers and drink their blood.You know why? Because she do not want the evil blood to drop onto the ground.I wonder why people don’t get it. Its bad karma to try to make god evil by sacrificing and worshiping her in the wrong way.What makes you think that she will be happy about this. And true enough its the spirits in the woman’s body not aman. They also posses powers and can ‘give vaaku’.I hope our community will wake up soon.
hahax.. people who dun noe the truth wil talk noncence.. people who belivez only will noe..
n u fuckerz.. u didnt kill a single animal aso ar?? u wanna complain of temple killing a goat?? hahax.. c ur self fist la
good question brother.. but i gotta let you know the truth.. we are all mere mortals.. we look up to God as our role model.. the topic here isnt about killing animals brother (as far as I’ve read).. Its about Questioning the existance of god in humans.. can you accept the fact that the Motherly God, the All- Loving Goddess Kali would slay n slaughter her own children (animals and humans alike)??? we are here to not condemn God.. but to comment on the ill-use and mlapractices conducted under His name..
i’m a JOhorean, and through my observation, its the Singaporeans who trust these kinda superstitious beliefs a lot. i have been to some of these “powerful temples” around Johor and one in KuChing ,just to observe because i do not have faith in rituals n i would say that 90% of the prayers are sponsored by them. As u all noe, these temples are popular because,they say that certain entities(that’s being worshiped) is capable of giving some kind of luck, mostly 4D numbers. So the reason, i assume people ‘worship’ the entity is because of the said luck it May bring n not for any spiritual reason. Why Singaporeans, its a true blue nature of a Singaporean to b $$$ minded.(still remember their 5 Cs ??)
i think u got it all wrong … its not only singaporeans… its malaysians too.. yesterday i went to Segamat Batu Anam Kali Temple.. fyi.. all the pooja and sacrifice of the goat was done and helped by malaysian… Singaporeans do sponsor but do not make all singaporeans look so bad.. if singaporeans are money minded../. hw abt malaysian..there are quite a number of malaysian and johoreans who travel up & down the causeway to make money in singapore..arent they money minded.. its not luck i would say.. more to good gesture of sponsorship..
sasau~
I reli reli pist offfff because of dis kind of ppl….hate dem….
HAI,GUYS ACTUALLY THIS GIRL UNDER THE TRANCE,SO SHE POSSES LIKE KALIAMMAN AND SUCK THE BLOOD.THIS BELIEVES FOLLOW BY GENARATION BY GENARATION .SO WE CAN’T DO ANYTHING BUT WE CAN CHANGED THAT PEOPLE MIND,LIKE IF SUCK BLOOD IT’S WILL SPOILT OUR HEALTH.AND THE SAME TIME,WHEN KALIAMMAN ENTER THE HUMAN BODY AND ASK BLOOD TO SUCK,AS A PEOPLE WE CAN IGNORE,WE HAVE RIGHT.THIS IS DUE,JOB FOR GOD IS HELPING PEOPLE NOT GIVE BURDENS
where is the loacation of this temple?