Comments on: God/Edu

By: Geetha

Geetha — Fri, 06 Nov 2009 01:49:13 +0000

its been awhile since i read your blog. good topic. in fact, the other day one of my sri lankan friend asked me, why people waste so much of milk and coconuts during thiruvullas (esp. when they pour hundreds of cartons of milk on god and break hundreds of coconuts on road). he reasoned that instead of letting all that food material to go to waste, why not donate to poor people or the orphanage, surely god wont mind. i was lost for words. as much as i would love to defend my religion, what he said made sense and it was something i had always thought of but never told anyone (except for my dad, as he has the same kind of thinking as me). if you ask me, a glass, gold, bronze, largest, floating, etc temple or school fully equipped with internet facilities, better laboratory, better paid and good quality teachers, CLEAN toilets etc.??? I would go for the latter anytime of the day.

whoever said, tamil schools dont produce good quality students, please dont stereotype. a number of my friends and family members studied in tamil schools and they turned out to be quality citizens with good jobs.i came from a convent school and the amount of discipline problems there are just as much as tamil schools. in fact, i would love to send my own children to tamil school someday.

By: Rapunzelle

Rapunzelle — Sun, 01 Nov 2009 17:48:01 +0000

hahaha…i enjoyed readin dis one….i agree wif sum readers,we need to reunite to upgrade our community and ur post is da eye opener..opps mind n heart open too….studied in an english school,till today i cant speak proper tamil nor read nor write and i feel ashamed bout it.Workin in a foreign country in a human resource field, I can speak other languages like tagalog,mandarin,burmese, but not a fluent tamil.and i was laughed by my colleagues for this.and once,i still remember i went for an interview.and during the interview session,da interviewer made fun by saying ur own mother tongue u dun know anything …den wats da point of u being an indian ? the interviewer was a japanese.
wat i am trying to express here is nowadays knowin our own language is a plus point to get job faster,it helps to get another A in our report cards.Even Astro channel Vannavil has got its own programme to upgrade da usage of tamil and showin to people da importance of da language.

Last but no least,we should be proud of our own language.We should be proud to encourage our children to learn our language n it comes from da place called TAMIL SCHOOLS.

By: malp

malp — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 09:25:26 +0000

when it comes to education, no child should be deprived. it is our responsibility as adults to ensure they are given the best. the needs of children, regardless of race, should always be taken care of, because in many ways they r just helpless. and when we wish to provide for them educationally, giving them our best is the only way, not setting up haphazard schools for them to learn it. its not important to build schools like palaces, just ensure that they have all the most basic necessities and as long as they are learning in comfortable and conducive environments. so definitely, if we can build such monumental temples, wouldnt it be more worthy to spend on children, the ones who need us to shape their educational future. we could change the course of their lives.

By: M.K.2

M.K.2 — Sat, 31 Oct 2009 00:54:07 +0000

I did not expect my comments to go that way…I guess it kinda got deviated in the act of me defending my ideas…so sorry bout that Durai…i’ll try to keep my post short this time since my ideas have at least reached certain people….(TRY!)…

http://www.aliran.com/oldsite/monthly/2002/5f.html

http://www.articlesbase.com/news-and-society-articles/is-abolishing-tamil-schools-the-solution-313827.html

these are some of the sources which you asked for….too bad there isn’t much I could show you in the net…but I do get my stats and facts from reliable sources…and of course much of my ideas also come out of experience…since I have been following this issue closely for a while now…so when I say facts…i do mean facts and not mere assumptions…I see you took the trouble to rebut my points sentence by sentence (even though I genuinely didn’t understand what you were trying to say with some of those ideas)…but really…I think all the answer is in the sources and my previous comments as well as comments from the others…if you still think that is not the description the school that you talk about is made of…then seriously…that is not what OTHER Tamil schools are like…i don’t want to beat around the bush any more…again….no hard feelings…I just don’t want you to look at this issue and start commenting from a superficial point of view….so yea…read the sources….and google up more if you really want to more about this issue..

By: M.K.

M.K. — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 09:30:01 +0000

http://www.aliran.com/oldsite/monthly/2002/5f.html

http://www.articlesbase.com/news-and-society-articles/is-abolishing-tamil-schools-the-solution-313827.html

By: M.K.

M.K. — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 09:02:31 +0000

I really did not expect this much retaliation….so sorry bout that guys…but i think the idea I wanted to convey has reached some at least…so I would like to make this comment short…

http://www.aliran.com/oldsite/monthly/2002/5f.html

http://www.articlesbase.com/news-and-society-articles/is-abolishing-tamil-schools-the-solution-313827.html

here are some of the sources you asked for…although there aren’t too many online sources available to talk about this issue…but I do get my stats from reliable sources…and of course a whole lot of experience….since I have been following the Tamil school problem closely for a while now, which has given me a good understanding of whatever the situation is right now…so when I talk about facts I do mean facts…

@ Anjali – i see you have gone through a great deal to rebut my comments sentence by sentence (even though I can’t quite get what you mean with some of your arguments)…but I think all your questions can be cleared by the articles…as well as my previous comments…I do not deny that there are alot of problems circulating this issue (i.e. infrastructure, for some, management)…and there is room for improvement…but yea…have a look at the articles…again…no hard feelings but I just don’t want you to look at this issue from a superficial point of view…

BACK TO THE POST…i could only reiterate whatever enganne Durai has said and say it together with him….

KADAVLUKKU KUDUKERETHE KALVIKKE KUDUNGE PAA!!!

By: Durai

Durai — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 01:47:40 +0000

Comment number 32/33 by -coolvaneegurl- and realist sums it all. That is all the context of this post.

I don’t understand how this topic got deviated from what I wanted to convey in the first place.

Well, I’m not going to ban anyone as when I started this blog I’ve already mentioned that anyone is free to express whatever their opinion is – BUT name-calling others with the intention of provoking is definitely not allowed. With that said, this would serve as yet another warning to asshole or any other person not to resort to name calling others unnecessarily. I hope you respect my decision just like how I allow your vulgar words or’pariah’ talks in the name of freedom of speech(kononnyer).

Thank you.

By: arasi

arasi — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 01:15:59 +0000

@Asshole – and what were you doing for the past 2 decades during the rule of the asshole? Ok, if you were just a few years ago, it is still not too late to lead us as you make your self sound like you are a better Indian…& please feel free to shoot me with all vulgarities as it won’t affect me one bit & I am quite used to getting that whenever i voice something contraversial even if it is the bitter truth about Indians….if you are an Indian, stop addressing other Indians as `they’ & start saying we no matter which class/caste you belong to…

By: realist

realist — Fri, 30 Oct 2009 01:02:36 +0000

as i said before, this matter is a debatable one & the current debate in this blog is on the right track as some readers feel that money should be channeled to Tamil schools instead of to gaudy temples while others feel that it would be a worthless effort as Tamil schools do not produce good Malaysian Indian citizens. Each reader is giving his/her own viewpoint based on their observation & experience.If i send my children to a national secondary school, no doubt there could be spoilt children irrespective of race but there is a higher chance of my children being spoilt by their own race…which primary school produces more of such Indian children? That is a soalan cepu emas….ok, if we accept that Tamil schools aren’t doing good for Indian children, what do we do next? Do we blame & shame them, ignore the existence of Tamil schools or air out our frustation in a non-committed manner or do we take ownership of the issue ?

By: -coolvaneegurl-

-coolvaneegurl- — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:58:31 +0000

Whooaaaa!! Turn off the heat people…It is getting hot in here… Sorry to interfere but seriously guys…This blog entry is debating if the M-O-N-E-Y should be spent on temples or should be spent for education.Quote “Kadavulke kudekerethe kalvi ke kudengge pa…”. Kalvi ke kudengge means not give the money to built a school from gold…it means give the money to help the education in terms of Indian schools. Give money to poor children who cant afford books, give money to build some organization to train tamil school teachers, give money to the school to provide for extra class….Why is the debate on about tamil school students being illiterate drunkards??

@M.K: I agree with you hands down.

@Anjali: Quote “No we are not arguing whether other school kids are like that but of the percentage you know of, do Malay or Chinese school produce as much illiterate, rowdy and freaking childish adults compare to Tamil schools”

I can bravely say they do. Maybe in your area as you said you cant see it but come out to the world and see. They do. Chinese schools produces Ah longs, how many ah longs you know of that cant speak languages other than Chinese proving my point per se….Kebangsaan schools are the one who produced cow head protesters not tamil school??

If we want to look at the negative everywhere also negative only lar. Look on the bright side. Why not help poor children whom their parents cant even afford to put proper food on the table rather than building temple made out of glass and gold? If teachers are the problem, use the money to give them extra training. Win-Win situation rite…The teachers get more knowledge therefore the students get better education.

*Grabs a Mars bar while enjoying the on going debate*