Girl-topia

I know some of you do not like the idea. Some of you are sitting on the fence(no comments). Some of you said why not? So, this is how I’ve decided. Every time I feel I may not be able to update my blog for a long period of time(which will be unlikely),  ghost writers will feel up the space. It would not be in continuous basis  like what I suggested earlier. Plus, I’m opening it to all of you, if you have a good piece of work and want it published, send it over. Make sure it’s good shit.

Below article pioneers. Do not screw her up just because she is against me, but rather put up your opinions on what you think about what she has wrote. Read this article about what an Indian girl thinks of what’s happening today in our society dominated by Indian males.By the time you’re reading this, I might be sharpening the hooks and setting the pots. :) Wish me luck.

The opinion parts had always been easy for me, constructing things in a systematic manner; that was tough. Blogging isn’t like some form 6 MUET essay, just use some beautiful words and band 6 is in your hands. The fact I’ve never written before; just adds the pain.

Maybe I’ll just screw up some of you with this post. And I’ll go rampage by summarizing few general things that had been discussed over here in this blog.

A very close friend of mine, he said something that was completely, utterly degrading thing. To cut the long story short, the friendship is now no more, and I finally found a good topic to write on.

The author of this blog, being an Indian male he is, like all most males I know (am being stereotypical, can’t help it), has inherited a disease. It is hereditary, I’m afraid. It doesn’t matter what race or ethic you are, its just there. Though no scientific study has been conducted, from my observation, this disease is more prevalent in Indian males than any other races.

The age old sexism. Male chauvinist pigism.

I just created that term. But it’s true. The whole problem with this scenario is; it had been practiced for so long, that people have just accepted things as they are, not questioning, or giving any second thoughts to it. Do allow me to explain further.Let’s not go so far, and allow me to quote a few examples from here.

Girls, clubbing and other naughty things-when guys do it, it’s validated. When guys drink, it’s perfectly fine. But with girls, it’s a different set of rules all together. The author of this blog proceeds to show the open mindedness of his thoughts (sarcastic) by saying that it is alright for a girl to drink or club, as long as she is with her boyfriend, or someone she knows.

Of course she’s not going to drink with any Tom, Dick or Harry. We are not dimwits. And if she wants to have sex, that’s up to her own discretion. If she is a highly principled person, good for her.

My point being, there should not be a separate case of rule for both genders. The main reason I believe that we have many problems in the society among Indian girls is that we are often suppressed starting at a young age. We are supposed to stick with the family, and behave in a way that society expects us to.Let her know her options, let her decide for herself. Give her the freedom. If she makes mistakes, then so be it. Let learn and live. At least, she’ll have exciting things to talk on later in life.

Girls are often chastised for the way we conduct ourselves.

Girls and cooking- I don’t see a problem in girls cooking, but my point being, they should cook because they want to, if it’s their passion. And just don’t give me the stupid excuse of…oh, meenachi should cook, because she’s a girl. Why must she serve the husband? Can’t it be the other way around too?
It automatically irritates me, whenever people mention the phrase.’ Because she is a girl.’

Because she’s a girl my foot!!

She has to cook, clean, work, take care of the children, take care of her husband-because she was born as a girl! What a change of fate eh? If only the male counterpart sperm reached slightly faster to the destination, how different ones life would be.

Working life- Something I feel I should touch on as this was something that affected me just recently. We, females, have to outdo and prove ourselves just to be on par with the males’ counterparts. You may not think its true, but it is. And gosh…it’s tiring.

Why do we have to end up working extra hard for anything?  In a weird way, being in an all dominated male area, I have no complains. I am being treated well.

But that is my whole problem. I don’t want any extra special treatment. What I am looking for is equal rights. Not because I am a girl, not because despite I am a girl. Just that I am another working member who deserve it, just because so.And in addition to that, it is tough to be taken seriously. We are at most times, as smart or smarter. Our IQ doesn’t drop 20 points just because our arse bleeds on a monthly basis. It is difficult to explain this, but if you are a girl, I bet you know what exactly I am talking about.

Guys, seriously, think about this for a minute. What would you do if your superior was a female? I’m not talking about some tough looking chick. Just an average, sweet natured women. Would you have the same respect for her as you would with a male counterpart?

It would be unfair for me to say that this is a problem of Indians alone. The fact is, our whole society is screwed up. In Islam, prayers are lead by males, and rarely by females. It’s this kind of actions that further indirectly effects our minds. And why don’t we have any female priest? It’s these small acts that have altered our thinking and lead us to the state we are in now. Most of us females, have accepted things as they are, accepting their roles as a second class citizen.

Before you start shooting me down, think about it for a second.

I may not have listed many incidences, but if you think about it, you would realize that I may have a point.

I actually asked this Muslim friend of mine, if she agrees to polygamy, if such a situation arise. And this girl, whom I know personally as a smart and successful lady, said without even hesitating, that she would, if it is fated such. Sigh.

Summarizing it; why the domination by males?

This being my first entry in this blog, I know my thoughts are all scattered and unorganized. I’m learning.Forgive me. After all, I’m just a girl: P

GreenClover


56 comments to Girl-topia

  • CoolMan

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    My oh my… GreenClover ..Interesting stuff.

    I think societies all over the world are changing towards the ‘ideal’ gender equalities that you are dreaming of. But i’m afraid at snail’s pace. Maybe it would take another 200 years to reach that,seriously.

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    GreenClover,

    Bravo!! Men play the game; women know the score. Hehehehe but the thing women have yet to learn is nobody gives you power. You just take it. Hats off to you :)

    Durai,

    She’s very true in her own way..A woman is like a tea bag, you can not tell how strong she is until you put her in hot water. But, next to the wound , what women make best is the bandage!!~

    Moral of the story:

    Nobody will ever win the Battle of the Sexes.

  • SuperMacha

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    Green Clover, u put out valid points in arguments… I agree with you generally, but there are parts where I have my reservations

    Perhaps it is not entirely true that males dominate (pointing to the sentence towards the end of your article: “Summarizing it; why the domination by males”). We’ve seen countries being led by females (Angela Merkel, Indira Ghandhi). On the whole, we can also summarize that when females get to compete on a level playing, it is more often than not a result of proper education and awareness given to them at a young age. Moreover, it can also be attributed to the mentality of the whole country (or organization).

    So, is it deducible that for women to be taken seriously (and Im NOT suggesting they are a joke), they should be made aware of their abilities from a young age. Of coz, we cannot be blaming our parents for not telling us that. Their time was different. But I’m sure, Miss Clover, that when you have girls of your own (if u don’t already have them, that is), you’d be teaching them that they can do just about anything they set their mind to, instead of repressing them.

    What is my point here? EDUCATION. Not college or university education. Informal education, as taught verbally and by action by peers and elders. Our generation realises this, although sometimes I dare say the older generation still opposes to the idea of equality. Society may have a collective mentality, but if enough people breakout and challenge the norm, others will take notice.

    Just don’t let those actual chauvinist pigs degrade the name of good men around.

    Kudos on ur writeup.

  • Karupi

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    first of all, kudos to ragedindian for actually publishing this article on this page…

    GreenClover,

    Male chauvinist pigism—cool term,i like it…

    I’m a girl, n i can’t cook to save my life, so u can imagine the number of times people have actually exclaimed, “you can’t cook?”…n think about the number of times this has happened to a guy instead…none whatsoever!!

    “And if she wants to have sex, that’s up to her own discretion. If she is a highly principled person, good for her.”
    —if a guy does this, it’s totally ok,in fact it’s thought to be cool i think(what’s the male version of the word slut?) but if it’s a woman instead, she is automatically a slut/whore!!

    Oh n finally,
    I’m not anti-man, just pro-woman
    —Jane Galvin Lewis

  • lady

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    Totally agree with GreenClover. Besides,at the current world,of what use are the male species to women? almost all are good for nothing esp Indian fellows; their main expertise being scrutinising Indian girls,looking for flaws in the girls & getting some cheap thrill out of it. Go and invent something, or create something and make Indians proud instead of focusing on how the girls should dress up, behave,talk,walk,fuck etc etc. Indian guys have ugly tatoos on their already dark body, drink like fish and flaunt about it.

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    Greenclover : Take off your shirt and walk freely on the streets without any top on, get back to me once you’ve done that Im ill be more than happy to answer all the questions posted on your article. :)

    And no im not being rude here, just want you to know, there are some things you cant do..

  • Rapunzelle

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    “Our IQ doesn’t drop 20 points just because our arse bleeds on a monthly basis.”..wa lau eh…..greenclover superbly said….ur article clicked my mind…

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    NatGoe, U r rite!!! As he said, im supporting him and im not being rude here. there are somethings that women cant do and there are somethings that men cant do…. for example, Only woman can give birth and not men. these all have been fixed by the GOD… you can change, but not all you can!

    and

    lady- if you ask me, i will tell that Indians are both side of good and bad. and dont judge all indians are bad. cant u see any indians name in this world that makes you proud? i jz wana say that, dont assume all the indian ppl are same. there are good ppl also. And no point u talk abt tattoo on their body. whether is dark or bright, its their personal. Since you mention abt their tattoo, color, behavior…whats the different between you and those guys? you also doing the same what now! “focusing on hw the guys behave, talk, walk…bla…bla…bla…”…

    your msgs is rite, but the way is rude….

  • Max

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    Good writeup for a first timer i must say, Kudos GreenClover..
    Now coming to the topics..u have just put in a broad view..lemme narrow it for u..

    “Girls, clubbing and other naughty things-when guys do it, it’s validated. When guys drink, it’s perfectly fine. But with girls, it’s a different set of rules all together. The author of this blog proceeds to show the open mindedness of his thoughts (sarcastic) by saying that it is alright for a girl to drink or club, as long as she is with her boyfriend, or someone she knows.”
    -This part is very simple, if a guy drinks and get drunk..he can just sleep on the road side but can a girl do that? And the reason Durai said drinking with boyfriend or ppl u know..is just for plain safety aite:) Thats not “Male chauvinist pigism” as u decipher it!

    The cooking part..hmm..i neither cant deny it nor agree! there are guys who cook..i.e my uncle cooks for his family..heck he loves doin it everyday..but me errr im kinda weak thr:))

    With that i end my comment…
    and im nt claiming all men are ANGELS, there are alot of DEVILS lurking around….

    P/S-NatGeo comment does makes sense, Right?

    Cheers

  • GreenClover

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    @coolman..haha..hence the topic girl-utopia..bt ur are right.well, we just have gotta take 1 step at a time eh.

    @nithz..hehe..thanks gal!!

    @supermacha..dude, you have completely misunderstood my article. btw, your rebuttals are contradictory..nobody restricts you, but you should not go against the law of nature??? what are you trying to imply here..Danger zone..be careful on how you word ur sentences.
    btw, ive touched many points here, bt the only thing you could think of is when a girl gets pregnant. The whole point of this article was to empower women..to assure her that she is in total control of her body and sexuality. If getting pregnant is her ultimate aim, she should do it. What gives you the authority to decide what is wrong and right?
    Grace, mannerism, beauty, humbleness, tolerance can go hand in hand with confidence, and empowerment. Im not asking a girl to go all manly, you misunderstood me. Just be urself, but a better version of it without the excuse of, ‘im just a girl’- holding you back.

    @Kavi..the world is changing..in some parts of the world, we are on the same playing level, bt we havent completely reached that state yet.
    I agree with you on the education part..Our actions are more important than preaching endlessly.
    Btw, not many knw about angela merkel..ppl usually bring in figures like margeret thatcher, or hillary clinton…salute!!

    @Karupi..High 5 gal!!! :)so true about the slut thing. closest term for a male slut would be a playboy..but even that term sounds cool..hahaha

    @lady..i appreciate your take, lady.. But it will be hypocritical for me to have different standards for men and women alike.am i not doing almost the same thing right now?

    @natgeo and eyezmachi..If that is what a girl really wants to do, thn, what the heck , GO FOR IT!!We even have events like the world naked cycling in australia etc..
    but unfortunately, that aint my ultimate aim..Look at the bigger picture natgeo, and leave aside this petty things like going naked and so on. There are more things worth fighting for other than us getting pregnant or the anatomy of our body.
    At the end of the day, we are granted the same brain power. Try to see us in that light.
    If you do truly see a women as an equal, your statement as above, wouldnt even be on your mind.

    @rapunzelle.. :)

  • SuperMacha

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    Your accusation that there is discrimination and inequality between man and woman is baseless.
    It’s your own perception which is limiting your flight to superiority.

    Empowerment is not something which is tangible. You have to attain it. You have to prove your mettle to rise above the rest, You should be able to conquer minds of both genders, so that they acknowledge your worth. It’s not something you haggle or demand to be given. In short, earn it! Not all men have the so called empowerment which you are yearning

    Who cares if your arse bleeds once a month and who cares again if you lose or gain points? If you gain points, it’s better for you, because you are a step closer to EMPOWERMENT!

    Nobody needs authority to say “wrong and right”. When something is behaving and condones to normal standards of acceptance we say right and wrong when it crosses the border of general understanding.

    There is no male supremacy or domination as you have summarised, it’s all an illusionary mental block that women have created themselves. It’s one of the cause of confusion and disharmony among man and women. One should learn to compromise and sacrifice.

    If you insist of being belligerent or revolutionary then you should accept the repercussions without any complaints.

  • linda

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    this is a fantastic “ghost writer”. Keep it up young lady.Men are empowered by women like you.

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    oi ppl !

    whats wrong with u all girls ? you all have already being given equal treatment from long long time ago . i think girls are getting better treatment than guys.

    i can insult a guy and walk away free but cant insult a girl without answering to 10 dicks suddenly appearing to protect her.

    a girl can wear make up during dinner but a guy cant shave at the same table.

    when a girl pretends to be stupid she looks cute but when a guy pretends to be stupid , he is just stupid. thats just not fair .

    its guys who must be fight for equal treatment .

    and dont buy into this whole ‘femenism’ and ‘equal right’ thing . womans must always be treated like how we treat every other man , just as stupid annoying bugging idiots.

    thats how i treat everyone , men or woman . see ! equal treatment right there.

    # hey hey , can ‘some’ of the commenter in this blog use …. errrr ‘normal’ english haha .. very hard to understnad all that polished plastic english commnet la … aiyah , so stupid la me me haha

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    @obi wan kenobi : Lol. For # .

    @lady : You could have just said you were referring to me. You’re hiding behind a nick, so why the worries? Anyway, yes, I fit in the criteria precisely; namely :

    “focusing on how the girls should dress up, behave,talk,walk,fuck etc etc. Indian guys have ugly tatoos on their already dark body, drink like fish and flaunt about it.”

    Tattoos are art, but talking about it to you is pointless. I’m interested with this line of yours :

    “Go and invent something, or create something and make Indians proud”

    Nee enah Einstein magelah? What have you invented that has made Indians proud in the first place? And here you come arguing about dark tattooed Indians not inventing something. I don’t feel on using too much bad words because I’m fasting. Thapiche nee.

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    @obi wan kenobi: likes ur post! Its true also! lolx

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    neway GreenClover, can u tel the moral of ur story since many people here have mistaken/misunderstood ur post! :-)

  • realist

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    @obi wan kenobi-hahaha funnylah you!

  • GreenClover

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    @max..thank you :) well, about your statement, if guys have enough respect for us girls,we should feel free to do whatever we want. either that, or we girls should start a new crime spree of raping guys..lol..lame joke..
    bt i c ur point, and i do agree we should have some limits…and same thing applies for guys as well when it comes to gangsterism etc.

    @supermacha.. Im lost 0_0

    @linda..Thank you Ms Linda :D

    @owk:putting on make up and shaving are 2 different things..wont it look odd if a girl takes out her razor and starts shaving her armpit or plucking her eyebrows during dinner??
    As for me, i find it annoying if a girl tries acting stupid.
    about men fighting for his rights, haha, u are right… Why dontya write sumthing to defend ur species and post it here eh? ;)

    @eyezmachi: hey, dont get me wrong, i love guys, always have, always will ;) i may turn bisexual someday, bt thats another story. well, the moral of the story is, stop trying to control us, or limit us, nuthing gives you the rights. Guys, think before you speak the next time. And girls, when others tell you you cant do certain things because you are a girl, challenge them. It sometimes maybe indirect, do not allow such nonsense to limit u :) cheers~

  • Scarface

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    Lady,why dont you stick your head up your ass?see if it fits ;-)
    Do retaliate or respond with something concrete,or else just shut the fuck up.Were you on drugs when you wrote that?I mean the girl Green Clover had her own views and she expressed it in a reasonable and acceptable manner.Thats how you express your views…dont just go around with your Indian bashing attitude..and whats with the tattoos?i’ve seen Indian bitches who are heavily tattoed around their genitals/boobs so whats the big deal here?you sounded like a perfect moron..i feel sorry for you

  • Rapunzelle

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    Normally i dun like to comment shit on other commentors directly
    ..GOSH ..but tis TATTOO part really pissed me off…

    @Lady – “Indian guys have ugly tattoos on their already dark body” since wen got rules in having tattoos.n who said dark people cannot have tattoos….n further more wat bout dark indian girls having tattoos …pls la read the article properly. Greenclover is talking bout woman’s rights and didnt even criticize man….

    @scarface – Not all the woman who have tattoos are bitches.pls mind it as TATTOOS ARE ART!Even u can google it.there was no any evidence saying that which ever woman having tattoos are bitches.

  • Robert Rath

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHF3X8tQYPU

    hidup makke! happy thaipusam! and do watch the video :D

  • Scarface

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    Rapunzelle,never did i say that woman who have tattoos are bitches.I believe im being misquoted here.All that i said was,”I’ve see Indian bitches who are heavily tattooed etc”..i know these women very well and i have my facts straight.Of course having a tattoo doesnt mean that a woman is a bitch..a nice design on the right place is definitely cool ;-)

  • Royal_Pain

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    I’m a gal too and i really like the fact that you wrote about female empowerment…u noe something actually not all gals want to be equal with guys…this type of mentality is varied according with the status of the female…like for me i feel damn sakit when my course mates always chose a guy as leader for any project even wen we all noe he is nt a suitable person to have such position…but i dont feel sakit when my mum make it a must for me to come back before 11 if i went out alone.. but my bro will be out sometimes till 4 or longer coz i never felt it was unfair..because that’s just our limits it does nt mean they r trying to be unfair with us…i am a very independent girl..and i would want to be successful and i would want to strive to achieve my goals and i will never let any man to come on my way…we need RESPECT and EQUALITY…And i strongly agree with u with “Not because I am a girl, not because despite I am a girl. Just that I am another working member who deserve it, just because so”…(i always say this too)..but we are different by nature from the other species ..our ability to give birth and our soft nature is one of the best gift of god…girls should definitely preserve the pureness of our nature…:P

  • Max Mahendran

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    I can only say, religion has created the gap between male and female…
    as us said, y we dun have female priest?y we dun have females to lead muslim prayers?
    i dun believe in religion,its rituals and superstition…but i do believe in GOD
    and i believe GOD created males and females with equal pro n cons…
    but religion changed the whole concept and made male a more dominant figure and this is
    brought forward and practiced in out current society.
    I can conclude,even the one created each religion was a MALE ;)(bias)
    just look at all the main prophet and lords of all religion…

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    @GreenClover-that’s the easiest way to understand! Well… said! emmm kalleppunggal! lolx

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    Good write-up GreenClover!

    In my opinion, no one restricts you from being up to par with the guys and no one is going to stop you from doing so. It’s your life and if you feel like retaliating to any of those claims that “because you are a girl”, go ahead and do so. Do take note that most of the time, those who advises you this and that are doing it for your own sake, thus consider it before retaliating because for them, prevention is better than cure.

    Talking about male dominance, it is true to a certain extent but that is how life has been for ages, especially when it comes to politics and social life. However, if you girls feel that you are better than guys in certain aspects, go ahead and challenge them. Go ahead and form a new party, stand in the upcoming elections and be an MP. Go ahead and challenge all the priests for a debate on why girls can’t be priests. Go ahead and screw all the males who can’t cook and let us know the outcome.

    And oh yeah, it’s you girls who are entitled for free drinks and free entries to night clubs including a special VIP treatment. Now, should we guys rant about it?

  • Anjali

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    Beautifully written, i couldn’t put it any differently. it’s very hard to be taken seriously without doing extra work more than men. I wish when i have daughters things will change, i’m fortunate in having at least 1 liberal parent who believe in female empowerment.
    Let us know if green clover have a blog.
    thanks to durai for posting up such a comment without prejudice. (U know where u stand in this)*smile*

  • GreenClover

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    @royalpaim..gal, i truly get u..have been in those shoes before and i completely understand what you are talking about. dont let that shit discourage u. You will get your moment someday :)

    @makkez : Thank you makkez. Suprisingly, in india, women are more empowered politically. In here, the ladies wing are quite passive when it comes to politics.u should check out their website.
    They have things like tips penjagaan rambut etc, uve gotta be kidding me..haiihh..no comments..just gotta take one step at a time i guess.
    @anjali: gal, your comment truly made my day. Thank you :)

  • GreenClover

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    @max..iks, left one out.uve got a point there.religion is man made, and hence, whn guys were left in charge, you see the outcome? :)

  • Karupi

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    yeah,i agree with anjali..greenclover, do u have a blog?? please bukak 1…hehe….

  • Royal_Pain

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    yah women are very passive in malaysia wen it comes to politics…hahahah bt they will always select a female leader like Shaila Nair into the club…sometimes girls who try to voice of ideas will be silenced la….

  • Kumar

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    Wow. I’m supposed to write a reply to this ages ago. Just found time to do it now. Please don’t kill me GreenClover :P. Very thoughtful post there. While I’m not disagreeing with what you have said, I’m afraid I would like to look at things differently. In a more optimistic way perhaps. I’m all for the empowerment of women. The two of the people that I love the most in the world and would do anything for are women, and I would certainly break anyone’s face if say they are giving my sister trouble at her workplace just because she is a woman.
    This is certainly a very broad psychological and sociological issue, and unfortunately I’m not majoring in any of those disciplines. But my two cents would be as follows;
    I think it is related to our biological programming. We are all animals, evolved from primates. But as our society progresses, there were constant periods of transition. Lets call them “building of platform” and “period of acceptance.” In earlier times, the men get to go out to hunt, because they were biologically built to do hard labour. The women usually took care of housekeeping and care for the children, because this was their biological role, as we can observe how other female animals do the same( K strategy). This meant that the men made all the decisions and were at the seat of power, because they were the ones in charge of ensuring security, and providing provisions. Times pass and things change. Education got broader, not being restricted to learning only your trade. This means there was a platform for women to also get the same education as men. But, as humans are creatures of habit, any drastic changes creates chaos in their minds. Hence you get the period of acceptance. The pioneer women who went to school, they didn’t have it easy then, but thanks to their efforts, all women get equally education these days in most countries. In fact I think there are more women now in universities compared to men.
    Thanks to the efforts of men for making an easier world for humans, now the working world is not limited to men only. There are jobs these days that doesn’t require oneself to climb trees or mine for coal. There are platforms for women to work at the same place as men. We have gone through the transition period and arrived at this point. However, I think we are still at the period of acceptance. So while things might be tough for you now, soon this all will pass and there would be equality of gender in the future. Sure its a slow process, but it was never a fast process to begin with. It might suck now, but keep fighting so that women in the future would have it easier than it is now for the working women. :D

  • Kumar

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    @Karupi : Quote/“And if she wants to have sex, that’s up to her own discretion. If she is a highly principled person, good for her.”
    —if a guy does this, it’s totally ok,in fact it’s thought to be cool i think(what’s the male version of the word slut?) but if it’s a woman instead, she is automatically a slut/whore!!/endQuote.

    So basically what you are saying is if a guy sleeps with a lot of girls, he is viewed as a stud or “the man!” While if a girl does the same she is viewed as a slut/whore etc etc. Well as a man, there are a few explanations to this that I can offer. Well biologically, that’s just the way it is. look at the animal kingdom. The males go around trying to fuck each and every female out there. But the female usually resists, and only allow the strongest of the males to copulate wit her so that the offspring would have the best pair of genes. So perhaps it is imprinted in our minds to think that way? Another possible explanation is, generally, it is hard for a man to sleep with a girl. He needs to do a helluva lot of work to get laid. So when a man sleeps with a lot of women, he is considered of having an achievement. While on the other hand it’s easier for women to sleep with a man. A bit of flirting and opening the legs would do the trick( if you are ugly, a few cans of beer would make u look like snow white).
    Finally, I would like to leave you with an analogy that I came across last time;
    Think about it this way. If a key can open a bunch of locks, it is viewed as a master key, and would be a pretty awesome thing to have. But if a lock is opened by a lot of different keys, then it is a pretty shitty lock if you as me. :D

  • Ninja Assassin

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    Ah ok, I just got the analogy – by lock you mean vagina. And by key you mean penis.

  • Royal_Pain

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    nice kumar..nice explanation..but the key that opens many locks r also not so special la…one type of key for one type of lock..sounds old school but kinda special…:P

  • Maya

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    Ok here goes, I’m gonna get slaughtered for this, but what the hell…

    I, for one, do not wish to feel/believe myself to be superior, or even equal to, my man. God created it so that women ARE the weaker sex & ought to be naturally subservient to their men.

    There are so many things I could list as examples of this, but I won’t patronise you, because it’s not necessary. Deep down, we all know that Nature meant for us to be looked after & protected, cared for, by our men – so what’s the big deal here?

    Modern society is so fucked up now, because this natural order of balance has lost its sync…men just don’t know how to ‘behave’ around women, or how to treat them these days, because basically, they don’t have a clue what women want anymore.

    These days, women want it all ways. They want emancipation, equal rights, jobs, pay, equal say… etc.etc.etc….but how many women do you know who are REALLY happy with this – if they are honest?

    Because in truth, ALL women need a man & when things go wrong, due to modern attitudes, you end up with bitter, shrewish females who gave up their chance of motherhood for their ‘career’ – maybe some even then, trying to turn back the clocks & reverse their decisions & have babies way too late in life, because they have selfishly tried, once again, to ‘have it all’…so-called ‘Super Women’ who are, in truth, anything but.

    Hence why so many kids these days go home to an empty house – no mum at home to care if they even go home after school, let alone ask how they feel, how their day went, etc. Then these kids in turn, get their own food & are off out on the streets (cos nobody is there to make sure they stay in to do their studies)& so they go off to hook up with their gangs. Also, with the women so busy fighting for their ‘rights’ – is it any wonder that so many men look elsewhere for their comfort? Do I need to go on?

    Come on ladies, give the guys a break – stop battering their fragile (yes, men DO have feelings) egos with your all-dominant, overly- confident modern ways & let’s get back to some true womanhood & femininity. YES, let’s get dressed up in clothes that please the guys (why not?)cos we benefit too when our men are happy – so everyone’s a winner!

    Men need to know that they’re wanted/needed – as do we all. So let’s get back to loving & fucking our men in the way they deserve – you KNOW it makes sense! ;-)

  • Maya

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    @lady (& I use the term ‘lady’ loosely)…

    Wash the dirt out of your racist mouth & as Durai says, at least have the courage of your convictions & don’t hide behind a ‘nick’.

    You are exactly the kind of woman who will end up old & alone, dried-up and bitter. Then you will wish you had one of these so-called ‘useless’ Indian guys – in fact, you will beg for any guy by then.

  • Ninja Assassin

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    @Maya

    You know what? I couldn’t agree more. Women have to act like women. So go back to the kitchen and fetch me a beer while I watch the game. And it better be cold damn it!

    Give me a fucking break la.

    “I, for one, do not wish to feel/believe myself to be superior, or even equal to, my man. God created it so that women ARE the weaker sex & ought to be naturally subservient to their men.”

    If it were up to people like you, women would still not be able to vote. Shame on you.

  • Maya

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    @Ninja…

    Read up yes…I DID say I expected flack for this but hey…If it provokes a response, so be it!

    There is a difference between being submissive to your man & actual abuse.

    And we are ALL entitled to our opinions…so, while I’m up, did you want that beer?? :-)

  • Ninja Assassin

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    @Maya

    Ah, you have aroused me greatly. This is highly inappropriate as I am in a public place.

    Either way, your absolute submission is very gratifying. I take back my harsh words. Bring me that beer! And while you’re at it, make me a sandwich.

  • Maya

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    @Ninja

    Any fillings???

  • GreenClover

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    @maya :ok, this is going to be a long one
    Seriously gal( or i assume so)what is wrong with you?You seem articulate, bt ur points dont make any sense. ill just cover a few things here
    quote/Modern society is so fucked up now, because this natural order of balance has lost its sync…men just don’t know how to ‘behave’ around women, or how to treat them these days, because basically, they don’t have a clue what women want anymore./unquote
    ur kidding me.. i read this, and am completely speechless..not at the profound idea u have here, bt the sheer stupidity of it.natural order of balance has lost its sync?so, ur suggesting we stay at home and make babies. im not by any way degrading the role of a homemaker, bt we can do more than just that. As an individual, not as a female or male, we have to be satisfied with what we are, who we are.
    you are right, men dont know how to treat women anymore these days. We should all succumb to men abusing us, having sex with us whenever they feel like it ( forced/unforced). Heck, after all, they are men, and they should control us. That is the natural order right. (btw, if u didnt get that, the passage above was plain sarcasm)
    /Come on ladies, give the guys a break – stop battering their fragile (yes, men DO have feelings) egos with your all-dominant, overly- confident modern ways & let’s get back to some true womanhood & femininity. YES, let’s get dressed up in clothes that please the guys (why not?)cos we benefit too when our men are happy – so everyone’s a winner!/
    I never claimed we should forgo our feminity. But i wont do it to please man. I would do it because it PLEASES ME AND NO ONE ELSE.
    I like heel, skinnies, mini skirt, bt i am not doing it to attract any guys. Heck, it is for my own blady satisfaction.

    Its the international womens month coming march, and there is this conference abt women, all successful in their respective fields, will be presenting their stuff. I dont blame you, really. Its just that you have been programmed to come up with such preconceived ideas.
    You should start reading up on marina mahathir, a lady whom i have a lot of respect for.
    http://www.rantingsbymm.blogspot.com/

    i have so many things in my mind, bt i cant seem to express it now. I think im still in a state of shock.
    Btw, what are you doing in this blog. Its a computer, a mans thing. Afterall, u are a girl, go and well..i dunno..find a nice mapillai, get married, have kids and live happily ever after. Why bother studying or working?
    I can imagine this senario, u waiting at ur doorstep, for ur hubby, clad in sari and head full or jasmine flowers. Or if he is a bit kinky, ud be in a leather cat suit. Satisfy him,good for u.Wait for ur kids to return, do ur house chores, watch serials.If your hubby comes back drunk, heck, its his choice. He is the man.You dont require his respect..its all about the love baybeh :) You dont want or need anything. best investment ur man has ever placed.Awesome!

    @ninja assasin :Dont think she understood ur sarcasm.Thank you :)

  • Coolman

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    GreenClover, THere are just too many ‘Maya’s in our society.
    with that how do you champion for gender equalities.?
    I think all woman need good education as a starting point.

    On a another matter drinking and promiscuity is not accepted in general world if you think of any health or social benefit.
    VD and addiction,,etc.
    Women should not argue for this just for ” gender equalities”.

    “”Self development and self empowerment”” without being restricted by society is what the aim should be.

  • Maya

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    @GreenClover :-)

    Oh my…it does seem that I have hit a nerve here, unsurprisingly though, given your ‘Male Chauvinist Pigism’ (YOUR WORDS) view of men. Firstly ‘GAL’ – bringing my sexuality into question was really uncalled for, a low jibe & quite unneccessary. Secondly, EVERYONE is entitled to their own opinions – & I did not personally attack yours – so please afford me the same privilege & allow me mine. After all, if you are so convinced you are right, then you have nothing to worry about, do you? With regards to your statement “We have to be satisfied with what we are, who we are” – you seem to be anything but, QUOTES : “Maybe I’ll just screw up some of you with this post” & “A very close friend of mine, he said something that was completely, utterly degrading thing. To cut the long story short, the friendship is now no more” (And he was supposed to have been a VERY CLOSE FRIEND? – Evidently not that close – he obviously wasn’t entitled to an opinion either then! & “The author of this blog, being an Indian male he is, like all most males I know (am being stereotypical, can’t help it), has inherited a disease”. Shall I go on?? I am stunned by your hypocrisy – not ONCE did I state anywhere that it was acceptable for men to abuse women – YOUR words, not mine – you obviously interpret women being submissive to men as ‘abuse’ (weird?) as I know a lot of couples who live like this quite happily. With regards to your claim “I like heel, skinnies, mini skirt, bt i am not doing it to attract any guys” – are you for real, lady?? What utter rubbish – YOU dress in that way to please/attract guys – as all women do! As for your assumption “Its just that you have been programmed to come up with such preconceived ideas” – please do not patronise me – I have not patronised you & you are simply assuming – you know NOTHING about me or about my life.
    “Btw, what are you doing in this blog. Its a computer, a mans thing” – You really are a petty little thing. If you are going to be writing blogs regularly, then you need to accept & understand the meaning of DIVERSITY – there are going to be many people like me & different, who will express all kinds of thoughts/opinions that you may not agree with, but nonetheless, it is called freedom of speech. Or is it that you would like to be the only ‘GAL’ (as you call it) writing on this blog? Hmmm….”Btw, what are you doing in this blog. Its a computer, a mans thing” (food for thought?). Look at this – “I can imagine this senario, u waiting at ur doorstep, for ur hubby, clad in sari and head full or jasmine flowers. Or if he is a bit kinky, ud be in a leather cat suit. Satisfy him,good for u” – And just what is WRONG with this?? My oh my…you got issues ‘GAL’. By the way, with regards to your churlish, assumptions – I am a former police officer,government agent, store detective & mother of four – but I did it right. My man came first (still does & always will do) NO silly sarcastic retorts there, please! – & I never sacrificed my children. Having said this, I have retained a 24″ waist, I weigh 60kg (or 140 lbs) & run my own business in legal services. YES I do have his respect – as we respect each other ‘GAL’ – it’s called love – you should read about it! (Don’t think you will understand the sarcasm there). Oh & lastly, please don’t ‘assume’ on behalf of other people – it’s bad enough that you do it so vociferously yourself.

  • Maya

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    Footnote to the above:

    That is my last word on the subject – so if you wish to type out another load of silly claptrap, go ahead – you can gain attention from elsewhere because you have had enough of mine.

  • Maya

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    @Coolman…

    “THere are just too many ‘Maya’s in our society”

    Grow up man, wake up & smell the coffee, FACT: we are all restricted by society, whether we like it or not.

  • Maya

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    @Kumar

    I just have to say, I find your blogs both funny & entertaining – & very true to life.

  • Maya

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    @NatGeo…

    Spot on! You couldn’t have put it any better! :-)

  • Ninja Assassin

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    Unfortunately, the Internet cares little for “everyone is entitled to their own opinion.” We’re here to argue and bicker and rant – your ‘opinion’ is fair game.

    BTW an ex-government agent with 4 kids who runs her own business?? lol that’s a brand new tv show right there!

  • Maya

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    @Ninja…

    Innit just – & I bet you would be sat watchin every episode lmao!

  • DD

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    @Maya- so, you retained a 24? waist & weigh 60kg (or 140 lbs)? just how tall are you? Just curious to know as you make it sound as though these stats are KPIs for a happy married life…btw am not surprised that you did it right, could women like you go wrong anyway…my, my, your rage when people oppose you.Lucky husband of yours, lolx.

  • DarkTannedSuperman04

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    All deserve equal rights.. no discrimination.. if we believe No Sivan without Sakthi, and No Sakthi without Sivan.. why not for the modern society? good one guys ;)

  • EnPeeruPadiyappa

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    Well well well, dont we have interesting blog and its remarks over here. My overall feeling of this is that GreenClove had a bad experience. and I have to agree most of the comments done by @Maya and @Kumar.
    I think GreenClove had her wires mixed up…and I mean badly. First your assumption that man wants woman to do all the housework, look after the kids, clean, cook etc whilst they sit having their beer or out with their friends. Or the fact that they are not equally respected at work then man. You are right in some cases, that the women are more intelligent than the man – hence you have more women in universities. Question is, how good are you in putting that “intelligence” in real time perspective? Statistics shows very seldom. I am a Team Leader trainer and I have seen for myself, that in the real world, men applies more practical knowledge than theoractical. There were situations where I have seen a man taking action in split seconds to save the business, on the hand a woman takes 5 mins to do the same – the difference is, the women does it better (for sure!) but that 5 mins had already cost the company a loss in business. This are just examples.
    The situation of why an Imam should be a man or a pandaram/gurrukal should be a man? This is nothing (maybe to some aspect) got to that a gurrukal performs the prayers without a top, where else you cant expct a woman to do the same (or it will be a big distraction to all men praying, consequtively making the temple very famous)…but its more that what you said, that your arse (by the way its your vagina) bleeds once a month, and its considered dirty. Now before you shoot me about what is it being dirty and all that, I dont want to go into medical explanation – all you need ot know is that its dirty, and you need to be in a peace/relax/cleansing mind to perform prayers and no woman in periods could achieve that.
    In addition to that, maybe its in your household – maybe your dad sits at home watching tv, whilst your mum slaving to cook, look after you, clean and you feel sympathy for that. Its the same in my household, except that my dad has brought me up such a way that I can cook, I clean, I can wash my clothes, dry them and iron them – and yes, I do the same for myself and my wife! If you want equal oppurtunities, you should seek equal oppurtunities in everything. Would you climb a on a roof to fix a leak? Would you jump start your car without extra help? Would you change a burnt bulb in your house? Would you be in a construction site, sitting on top of one of those machines, to dig holes/etc? Thats why you differ from us. You dont have the mental strength to do those things. Instead, God gave you other things which would be beneficial in life. You are more soft. Like you said, you are more intelligent, so you can think more wisely for your family. You are the mother, a girl turns to when she has “women” problems. Do you see a girl going up to her father asking sensitive things? YOu have more patience. You dont see us guys fighting for the same thing you have. But does all this makes you a lesser of a person than man? You were built with your strengths and weaknesses and we are built with our strengths and weaknesses. Have you ever heard for every man’s success, there is woman behind it? Why do you think there is such a saying?
    And sorry, dont go on attacking Maya just because she speaks the reality and I thought it was pretty petty that you judged her badly, especially the part where you wrote, “why are you playing with computers? Its a man thing” – fyi, there was a study if computers are a he or a she, and its declared as he. (ok ok, if you want equal oppurtunities, then laptop is a she!!) – so that explains why maya is on the computers.
    When you write a blog, defend it intelligently, accept some remarks, give your rebuttal smartly – then your blog is worth reading.
    And accept what the world is right now – if one man sleeps with 10 women, he is a playboy/stud. One girl sleeps with 10 men, she is a slut. THis is nothing got to do with Indians…this is a general aspects of human being and science.

    all the best
    (and its my fake name on this, dont assume another typical male indian chauvunist)

  • EnPeeruPadiyappa

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    Lol, btw GreenClove, i think you watched too many tamil movie girl. Lol, “be in your sari, wait for your drunk husband by the doorstep, if he is kinky, jump on leather suit”…LOL!! Classic. Eppadi mah unnakku intha mathiri yossanai vanthuchu?

    Do you know top designers in the world are men? Do you know what was crossing in their mind when they designed miniskirts, high heels etc? Because thats what attracts men. It is for the same reason you buy those clothes. Not for your own satisfaction. What satisfaction do you get wearing a skirt shorter than your knee? If you can explain that in detail and if its valid, I would probably accept your argument.

  • Proud2bePariah

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    to add – most top chefs are men too. But the Bank Negara Governor General is a woman – voted best in Asia Pacific 5 times in a row, but do you know something Tan Sri Zeti respects her husband who is only a Datuk because thats culture – nothing to do with male superior to female. She is a clear example of female superior to male. But culture dictates women respect their husbands, and men in turn respect women as their counterparts, not subordinate. World is changing my dear Greenclover. What you saw/experienced is because of upbringing la. In most low/middle class family, the mothers spoil their sons by not letting them do anything. His mother and sisters do everything for him, evne though he is an adult. THe only thing they dont do is wash his dick/ass after he has finished his business (even then I am not sure abt this)- so these are the men you see, who expect to be waited hand and foot. But now things are changing. I am like bro MyNameisManofPeople – we do everything for ourselves and for our wives (fyi – my wife prefers my style of ironing cf to hers)
    But girls these days – simple cooking pun tak tau. Why? Bcos Mummy didnt teach me la. I dont know. BULLSHIT! This is a basic thing that every woman (esp Indians) should know (and men too) TAk malu ke kalau your husband can cook and can cook better than you? AND my dear – this is typically Indian! Malay & Chinese women/girls know how to cook!!
    btw – my wife is an excellent cook!

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