Zakir Naik and the Innocence of Muslims

Around afternoon today, thousands of protesters mostly Muslims gathered around US Embassy in Kuala Lumpur to protest against a low budget movie called ‘ Innocence of Muslims’. The peaceful protest was a success with memorandum presented to the necessary parties. The cause was right; no religion shall ever be insulted, what more degraded in a documentary style movie.

I hate to say this, and I didn’t want to write about it. The previous topic revolved around two dumbheads who has not been loved for a long time perhaps, and just when I thought I would be able to write something informative and funny, two low-life cunts caught my attention again.

If you remember clearly, 2 years back there was a mini unrest around the country when the court ruled the word ‘Allah’ is not exclusive to Muslims and could be used by the Christians in their Bible. This stirred the emotions of most Muslims, because the word Allah shall not be used by any other person who is not a Muslim.

A single word and it caused so much commotion. Allah is a sacred word. It might get misinterpreted if it is found in religious text of others. Some cheap Mat Rempits decided that they should burn down some church in order to take revenge and so they did…


I certainly understand the outrage.

A few years back, Shah Kirit who was probably analed by elephants got caught when his video came out in the public. In the video, he was speaking in a closed forum ridiculously explaining and insulting Hindu religion to the core and making sexual remarks about Hindu gods. When the video came out, Shah Kirit apologized to the public, and DESPITE numerous police reports against him, this sick monkey was NEVER caught. Tell me my Muslim brothers, if someone is to insult your religion like in this video, will you ever forgive him?


But the Hindus did. I did. Malaysians did.

We forgave this predator in the name of peace.

But he’s back organizing something even bigger, and bringing in a racist cunt that was banned from entering many highly developed countries like United Kingdom and Canada. Shah Kirit has this time brought in Zakir Naik, a renowned master manipulator of religious text and who claimed that every Muslim should be a terrorist (in a way).

Zakir Naik has held talks all over the world, and his job is to compare religion and make you look like a fool. Gifted with incredible skills to remember many sacred texts, he chose to utilize it the wrong way. I watched countless number of his videos, and his insensitiveness towards the faith of others is incredible.

When the Christians were accused of proselytizing Muslims around the country, people like Hasan Ali, Ibrahim Ali and many Muslims declared war against the enemies of Islam. You get outraged when someone is trying to convert a man out of Islam right?

Now listen.

Zakar Naik had successfully convinced thousands to convert to Islam over the past many years, which I don’t really mind because religion is one’s own choice. No one shall be making decision for you and if you feel your calling is different, then you shall embrace whatever suits you. Do you see any non-Muslims protesting against converting to Islam?

No.

What got me raged was Zakir Naik would be holding talks all over Malaysia discussing and comparing religions. When people object, then some ask why don’t we come to the forum and question this scumbag? Why must our religion be dragged in your forum? Talk all you want about your own religion, and I’m willing to come and listen about the beauty of Islam.


You say we should be matured while discussing. It seems non-Muslims must be open minded. How can we freaking be open minded when our God is being insulted clear cut like this? Why is that our religion can be discussed and we must join in and rebut the claim? Will any of the Muslims allow a talk by a Hindu or Christian discussing about Quran?

It seems the media and people tend to misunderstood and misquote him. Kotteleh misquote. You see up there , it was there in his Facebook fanpage questioning if Hindu God does exist!

All that said, I saw a 6 year old Muslim boy putting up thilak in the forehead of Lord Ganesha. While we have a full grown madman spreading hatred in the name of religion all over the world, we have a mere 6 year old pointing out to the world that religion means peace.

Inthe payenode konjem vanggi kudicha nalla vantherevan Shah Kirit

 

May peace be with all, and may those who spread hatred rot in hell.

 


121 comments to Zakir Naik and the Innocence of Muslims

  • nishaa

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    Well they say that empty vessels make most noise, don’t they. We don’t have to go around arguing and trying to proof what’s right as right, only what’s false needs assurance from time to time. Likewise, no Hindu’s ever come up with forums or talks like this bcoz they know the truth about Hinduism, the fact that it’s the oldest religion in the world (no matter how much anyone tries to be in denial) the rest of this people who come up with new stuffs like this are just here to create some chaos. Best part no Hindu’s will go burn down any mosques or protest coz we will be shot dead or shot with tear gases.

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      • itsmylife@88

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        What Islamic countries are you talking about?Please don’t tell me that pakistan and bangladesh are islamic countries. just ask someone who personally has been to arab countries, how respectful and peaceful lives people are living there, economical problems are everywhere. Just because you see some protests and retaliations against their governments on the media channels and you generalize it as an islamic happening! You can’t see America killing innocent population in the name of terrorism and dropping atomic bombs on weaker nations but you are very much observant on whats happening in islamic countries. Scared ones??Really, whole world is conspiring against islam but still true muslims never change their faith nor stop spreading the message of islam no matter what the consequences are. We only fear our creator.

        • kumar

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          your creator is your parents hahaha! realize that first..
          And why you should fear to your creator if you sincere and good.????

          • Durai

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            I’m closing the comment section for this topic because I don’t see anything beneficial being discussed here.

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          • Straight Speaker

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            Agreed. Respect others as humans first, my muslim friends before turning into religious fanatics…:D

      • Vaniee

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        you can’t proof anything as well, you blindly follow the Quran and its teachings as has been handed down for generations and you assume they are right with no questions asked since ‘banyak tanya rosak aqidah’…there is no such thing as one god, one way of worshipping…even in Islam, pintu masuk ke syurga pun banyak….

      • nisha

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        I am not blindly following my forefathers or whoever it is. It’s a known fact all over, why dont you just google the oldest religion in the world and see what comes out. You get your facts right before arguing. We also have many other proofs that shows Hinduism was here way before any other religion. Have you heard of the lost city of Dwarka or the lost city of Krishna? Watch the videos on youtube. These are all some proofs that are emerging and there are more that are yet to be dug out.

  • sara

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    a true muslim will respect other religion. im a hindu i do respect muslims.this is why most of the muslim country not peaceful at all..clean your shit before clean others.

  • Kasvini

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    hhahah oh rupanya orang ini ialah speaker yang sudah kena ban?? hahaha..

    like I commented before… I’ll keep my prasad to myself. People like this can say whatever thay want, I have the strength of Love and Peace in me. It’s only a matter of time before the masses see through the hatred… And if they don’t, that’s okay… Most holy texts have records of our age as a time of fitnah, fake prophets, lies, and deviations from the True Calling.

  • Mohamad Ajmal Abdullah

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    • nav

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      what uncertainties in mind?if people condemn ur religion ,it is wrong..but ur people condemn our religion so it is right?..confusion in what??is he the great swami Vivekananda?? or Dalai Lama?..and what for we need to ask question at a arrogant person like him??he is hiding all the scientific proof bcoz he got mbbs..one question that were ask at him is , polygamy is right or not?this dumb ass answered that ,population of the man is higher than the women..so a way to solve this situation is polygamy..he said that he answering wt scientific proof..let say if the population of women is more than the man mean,still the women can use the holy quran way???..just think of it..

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      • Waseem

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        Assalamualiekum,

        I am a muslim and I do not condemn Hindu religion. I respect every religion like Hinduism, Christianity, Budhism etc. A person can answer better to him/herself is he/she thinks.

        Coming to the topic, we muslims do not condemn Hinduism but only accepts the truth. If you can prove that you are truth, we are the followings. But if not, what can we do.

        Polygamy is allowed not for because there are more women in world than men but the reason being that it reduces the sex ratio in the world. If a person likes (human nature) a woman (other than wife) then why should he rape her. Better is to marry her and live a respective life in the society.

        Polygamy reduces the sexual crimes. If you want a detailed information about polygamy, refer to Dr. Zakir Naik’s lecture on polygamy.

        Comment only if you complete knowledge because little knowledge is dangerous. Research upon the topic and then comment.

      • ShriVidhyaRam

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        well, the naked truth is..
        men is more than women.
        Msia: 800,000 men is more than women.. check jabatan perangkaan details.

        world wide: million difference
        (men is more than women)
        again, they only talking without the truth facts! does tat means, instead women should marry more than men or it is jst a excuse?

        world history & according to the world oldest language is Sanskrit (computer lang nw), oldest religion on the earth is Hindu.
        we as a Hindu is vry peaceful, we nvr force others to convert neither stop them. we will nvr abolish any other faith monument nor invade them. tat is respect too.

        same like in other religion, there is some misleading in faith, same in some Hindus on practise n belief. but the main source, we believe in One God. One Oli…
        i dont condemn any religion, as i do have mix faith among my relatives. and as a Hindu, we are encouraged to learn others faith too, to knw their perception on God.

        there is lot of loop hole in other faith too, well know to all. as it is sensitive we cnt discuss here. or probably held in prison as there is no freedom of speech for us. maybe for some like zakir, they have..

    • Justanother20yroldguy

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      dude, seriously? then, what’s the differences between you and that guy? if you hate the guy, target your speech towards him. you don’t have to drag islam and all the muslims…. that’s just sick, man. take pride in your own religion; don’t tarnish other religions just to make your’s look better.
      it seems to me that you are not clear at all.

    • Mohamad Ajmal Abdullah

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      woa there a lot of thing I don’t disagree. If Islam is based on evil premises? What Hindu is base on? Please share with me. Good thing always should be shared right?

    • Mohamad Ajmal Abdullah

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      typo. sorry. *there are a lot of thing I don’t agree with you.

    • itsmylife@88

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      Men wearing white and women condemned to black:
      Certainly not an islamic dress code, you must be referring to some cultural dress wore by muslims of some particular region.

      A religion that does not give charity: Seriously?! Islam is the only religion in the world that has made it compulsary for its followers (who can afford) to pay charity to the poor and needy as a religious duty. Following verse from the quran is the proof of that:

      ” Lo those who believe and do good deeds and establish Salah and pay Zakah, their reward is with the Sustainer; and no fear shall come on them, nor shall they grieve.’ (Qur’an 2:227)”.

      ‘Zakah’ means charity in arabic.

      Islam(might not include all muslims) is the most forgiving and tolerant religion. A muslim is supposed to be forgiving for others if he expects Allah to help him.

      Following is the proof from quran:

      “..They should forgive and forebear. Do you not love that Allah should forgive you? And Allah is Forgiving, Merciful.” [S?rah al-N?r: 22]

  • Jen

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    But the MIC people are saying the page with the cover shown in your blog is not the official Zakir Naik page, and that he was not disparaging Hinduism but was making an observation (or comparative study) to show the similarities of both religions.

    This is the official page. https://www.facebook.com/zakirnaik

  • jay

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    This man is evil minded,he is such a jerk..i have text of his debate with a prominent ex muslim..
    He answered all the questions like shit..tak masuk akal langsung…anyway he will get his daughter married to my 54 years old imam neighbour…..practise what u preach…ivan oru masrandi..

  • Adrian Netto

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    You say you are the servant of God, how sure are you or are you a self declared servant? Prove it the same way you want us to prove on Ganesha!!!

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      • raksaksa

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        …while going around chopping people’s head off, and burning flags (and yourselves), blowing people up (and yourselves). Funny lot!

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  • Labrinto Loco

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    Ask him only one question and just one – keep it short and simple

    Q for ZN – Were any of your ancestors Hindu??

    He cannot deny it unless he decides to lie and if he accepts it, anything he says about Hindus from then on is as good as insulting his own ancestry.

    • Mohamad Ajmal Abdullah

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      Labrinto Loco, do you know who is the ancestor of Hindu? I have one question for you. Do you have a copy of your Holy Book in original language? If yes, I would like to try to read and understand it.

    • itsmylife@88

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      I don’t understand why people think that zakir is insulting their ancestors or them, he is simply conveying the message of god, raising a question on the credibility of these lifeless idols that people worship with so much false faith. Even if his ancestors were hindus why to make an issue out of it, they found the truth and accepted it and moved on and so should you. PEACE

      • raksaksa

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        And we are trying to tell him to go and spread his “peace” in places that DON’T have peace, like Somalia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Sudan etc. etc. These are places that needs his “peace”, urgently. Not in Malaysia. We are all ok with each other. We as idol worshipers, are completely at peace. We get respect everywhere we go. We don’t get anally probed at the airport for bombs. We contribute to the vibrant Malaysian culture with our celebrations etc. and worldwide we contribute to the arts and sciences through our unique belief system. I don’t think we need zakir naik to tell us about our OWN faiths. Hilarious!

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          • raksaksa

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            So you like to see anal probing? Or do you do some of your own? Hahaha! True that I don’t get to see the muslims violated this way, because it is indeed disgusting. But you seem to cherish Hindus being handled that way. Weird, but I understand your need. In my line of work, I almost always notice that there is no ambiguity in separating muslims from the rest for “special” attention, if you know what I mean. On the other hand, the US astronaut, Sunitha Williams, carried a Ganesha idol to the International Space Station recently. The best you can claim is that Neil Armstrong converted to islam! (luckily he didn’t folks! his ashes (aashti) was offered to the sea just recently. see here http://bit.ly/Ram32Q)

    • Vasu

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      • Basil

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        wow! it’s like you were there from the day they were born until they died. Seriously Vasu, is this your valid argument? are you, by any chance, aware that Christians also believe in Adam and Eve, and that they were created by Yahweh, ? meaning they followed teachings of the Old Testament from the Bible?

  • peace maker

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    • itsmylife@88

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      This is the main characteristic of these people, they are real fanatics who are supporting one man narendra modi who was involved in the gujarat riots in which helpless innocent women, children and elderly muslims were brutally killed by his men, they are not ready to face the mirror of reality, they are too scared, all they can do is talk against anyone who shows them the truth using their own scriptures, but they are too blindfolded to learn anything, they can’t justify any of their deeds of worship but still find a thousand ways to praise their religion.

      • raksaksa

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        Oh please, don’t bring your India politics into this mix. Its not the religion dickhead! Its politics. The fact is more people are killed by muslims, and suffer (as muslims) as this idiot is trying to portray. Clean up your filthy backyard first, can you?

        • itsmylife@88

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          I think you did not got the picture right, indian HINDUS support this fag modi just because they believe that he might be a saviour of their religion by killing more muslims in such organised riots. Crazy thinking but they forget that more you conspire against islam, more it rises to its heights and the example of america is the best, just google it and find how many people accepted islam after 9/11 and there was nobody there to force them to accept islam because this 9/11 brought islam into limelight and people started learning about it and found it to be the only true religion.

          • raksaksa

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            Hahaha So when will USA be muslim? Hahahaha! I’ve heard this story since the 80s. In the 80s, muzzies like you went around saying the world will turn into islam in 5 years, and then 10 years and then 20 and so on and so forth. Well, nothing happened, except when you realised it was not going to happen, you started bombing, killing and getting killed. Besides, more people accepted Buddhism than islam. By a long shot!! So go to a corner and cry your heart out. Hehehe!

          • atheist

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            OMG..You are just admitted that you are a terrorist! people accepted islam after 9/11? so does that mean you support attacks like 9/11 so that people accept islam! instead you should be shameful on the attack! Ridiculous!

  • thilak

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    bloody useless fella…ZAKIR TAIK i call him!!

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    There is a saying that comes to mind here. Of course, it does not apply generally, as previous comments show, but if we think about the source of the worst atrocities being committed around the world, it seems it applies to some. The quote:
    “Good people do good things, bad people do bad things. But for good people to do bad things, they need religion.”

    • itsmylife@88

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      I completely disagree. Religion actually encourages a man to do good deeds even when nobody is watching him, even in the darkest corners of the earth when he knows that his god is ever watching him.

      • raksaksa

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        Like in somalia, the darkest of the dark?

        • itsmylife@88

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          Actually i can agree with stafford upto some extent considering that you are talking about any religion other than islam. In our country there is this hindu ritual that a boy who is “manglik” has to marry a dog or a tree before he can marry a girl, this way they believe that his “manglik” effects will fade away and same is true for girl also, this is a pure religious practice. When these kind of things happen, then its obvious that people will say “…But for good people to do bad things, they need religion.”

          Somalia is a different story, there people are dying of hunger and malnutrition but you can’t see that, can’t u see that? what does your religion teaches you?

          • raksaksa

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            Somalia, Eritrea and most of eastern Africa is a shithole because of islam. A long time ago it was a more like a garden of eden. Great leader came from there. It had thriving businesses with India even! When islam came, it destroyed it all. Now the somalians use islam as an excuse to pirate ships. Apparently they are following their prophet, just like his caravan raiding days. See what happens when you follow a moron? Will you ever learn?

          • raksaksa

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            Another example is the middle east. Remember the Hanging Gardens of Babylon? These and other wonders of pre islamic culture and sciences were destroyed upon the arrival of this evil. One of the factors seems to be the qurban festival, in which they are commanded by their god to slaughter animals to their god. So to fulfill this evil cults blood lust and animalistic tendencies, vast areas of green were made into pastures to fatten animals to be cruelly killed (have you seen how they do it. its horrendous and downright inhumane!). Even today, during this killing festival, the slaughter areas are turned into rivers of blood! But the worse effect was the removal of the top soil and gradual desertification which crept up unto these areas. The somalians caught the biggest brunt of it, because of this madness for killing animals. Notice that other non muslims agrarian communities in east Africa actually thrive! Example: masai.

          • Justanother20yroldguy

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            itsmylife@88, mate do not get confused between culture and religion. they are not the same, not even close.

          • ShriVidhyaRam

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            well i think you have very very limited knowledge on other religion. pls go & get ur facts ready my dear sister..

            abt marrying dog or tree, is NEVER thought in Hinduisme, instead it is NOT practised at all.
            its isolated case, by some uneducated person.

            well like there is no ajaran sesat (misleading), likewise you claim only certain individual do terrorism & it was not as a whole.

  • INDIAN

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    I have researched Judaism, Christianity, Hinduism and Islam and without any doubt i can say that Islam is the only religion which has a divine source, this i say because the divinity of a religion can only be decided by looking at their scriptures and while Bible has been tampered a lot over the time, Hindu religion is at the stage of complete corruption because once you start believing that the religion is just a culture and anything is allowed and the religious decisions are justified using cultural traditions rather than some book containing religious laws, there are huge chances that we have deviated far away from the path, Islam on the other hand stands apart from other religions in this regard as the Quran is free from any tampering, contradictions or errors and provides some very undeniable proofs hinting at the existence of GOD, the only irony is that muslims have not adapted themselves according to Quran.

    • Mohamad Ajmal Abdullah

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      yes. True. I second that. A lot of Muslim now, don’t behave like one. They just give a bad name to Islam. Like the violence react towards the Innocent of Muslim. it’s totally wrong, misrepresent Islam. Islam prohibit punishment to the innocent. The explanation behind this goes back to history after the World War 2. The western to some extend successfully drag Muslims away from the teaching of Al-Quran. Every wrong behavior you see now is from the Muslim, not Islam. Islam in arabic means peace.

    • raksaksa

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      “…the only irony is that muslims have not adapted themselves according to Quran.”

      Funnily, quran doesn’t seem to have an answer for that. Weird isn’t it?

    • james

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      I’m not arguing on any point you have made but just coming up with a statement that you should not say that there is no corruption and deviation in islam just because its rather new to previous religion doesn’t give any superiority because i have a small experiment you can conduct by your self put 10 person in a row and tell the first guy a story and if the final 10th person can give exact story to you that accept my apologies ahead for being ignorant about the power of human and their accuracy. my point view is simple no one religion has 100% truth but doesn’t meant we should not follow them. its path a human should walk so that he will not be lost, take the only the good stuff

    • Jay

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      Quran is just a rule book for tribal followers of Prophet in the desert. Its not required in modern day and age. And it doesnt adapt to the modern day and age either. That is why all these Islam related problems are there across the world – be it in France, Germany, USA or even Muslim countries like Pakistan, Afghanistan. Why do you in Malaysia need to wash your hand and feet every time before namaz? It made sense in the dirty desert – not in a modern office. But still you guys continue with the same age old customs for an age old religion.

  • Peace For All

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    Many people abusing Zakir Naik for who the hell is he to tell us about our religion, but nobody realizes that if he is asking for some favor in return? NO. He is only spreading the message of Islam and not forcing anyone to convert(if you feel he is forcing, bring your proof) because that goes against the principals of ISLAM. What you see and hear in the media against Islam is just another propaganda against this great religion without a little or no reality at all. As for Zakir Naik is considered, i agree that he sometimes gives harsh replies to some harsh questions but he is also a human being and we make mistakes, and please don’t make an opinion about any religion just by looking at its followers,the same follows for islam, many good muslims are there who are among the best creatures you will find anywhere, these are the people who properly follow the guidance from Quran . Whoever says that why he(Zakir) gives scientific examples,they should not forget that religion can never go against established sciences otherwise it ceases to be from a divine source.

  • Basil

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    “raising a question on the credibility of these lifeless idols that people worship with so much false faith.”

    not a very good statement. very, very offensive.

    • itsmylife@88

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      i am sorry @Basil i did not wanted to hurt anyone’s feelings but since people don’t stop comparing the behaviour of some muslims with whole islam, i can’t stop myself. You are feeling really hurt when i say something about your faith but you constantly abuse my religion and my prophets without knowing a hint of reality about them.

      • Basil

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        again,
        “YOU are feeling really hurt when i say something about your faith but YOU constantly abuse my religion and my prophets without knowing a hint of reality about them.”

        i never mentioned anything abt your religion man. and i have nothing against Islam. its just the people who abuse Islam. Islam is peaceful, but certain fanatics in Islam, certain Muslim extremists take it way too far. and looking at all these, people are generalising. that guy who made the video is a Coptic Christian. have you read up about them? im not saying what he did is good, because it is against Christian teaching, but something must have happened in his life or someone dear to him in Egypt that made him hate Muslims so much. again, this preposterous movie is not the view of Christians, it is a view of an individual, and possibly based on what happened to him in the past.
        itsmylife@88,
        fighting fire with fire is not the answer. if a dog barks at you, you should be the better person and walk away instead of barking back at the dog. i think you get my point. so just chill.

  • Vaniee

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    People like Zakir and Shah thrive on the continuous need of Muslims to be assured that their religion is supreme and that they have made the right choice in being a Muslim. I have also noticed that Muslims advocate their religion by circulating lists of famous non-muslims who have converted. The list is usually not true when checked. For example,figures like Neil Armstrong and Sunita Williams who never converted and this was also highlighted by Marina Mahathir recently in her column in The Star. Islam is well documented with the Quran as a guidance. Thus, why do Muslims need assurance of their faith from time to time? Is their faith very fragile that they need continuous reminder of how lucky they are to be Muslims? Servants should be humble especially if they were to preach religion. Insulting other religions and concluding that a certain religion is the best is sheer arrogance. Zakir may have people admiring his gift of gab but he will have a lot of answering to do when he meets his maker. Let’s see if he can get away with the dumb answers that he always provide his audiences…

    • raksaksa

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      Their basic premise at all times is as the “perpetual victim”. Whatever filth they have in their backyard is ok, but they must highlight the “dangers” of other faiths and beliefs. Its a joke, really! I just saw a cartoon on FB showing their utter ambivalence when faced by muslims being killed in syria, pakistan, nigeria, sudan etc. etc. but when some fool makes a youtube movie, all hell breaks loose! Now you tell me, if you truly believe a powerful force of a god or gods, do you need to go berserk? But the true god does show up, and kills those fools who do go berserk! 15 in pakistan, by last count, yesterday. LOL!

  • Vaniee

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    Often it is the fanatic believers who tarnish the name and image of a certain religion with their conducts and never the religion itself that is a problem…

  • jay

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    There,s is no point talking or debating to a bunch of sick people who follows
    a book,i mean only one book for the entire creation and the end of the world?Hinduism is based on science and freedom to choose is the key.We respect other religion even though they are INFIDELS…..ehem-ehem..may i know who coined this words?what is the punishment if you want to be out of the religion?says it all.dot…it is indeed peace ha?For you ‘INDIAN’,what kind of research do you do for saying that islam is from a divine source that has not been tampered with?It is from a one man view…what kind of divine source?..go read again the quran and all the hadis…then you will know all about the holy thing……To itsmylife@88..wait i can’t view the the text from Johor..its banned website…hahahaha..i will post it asap…..which religion in the world has this kind of hero who people are shedding blood….”a narcissist, a misogynist, a rapist, a pedophile, a lecher, a torturer, a mass murderer, a cult leader, an assassin, a terrorist, a madman and a looter”…i am still wondering..i am not a fanatic..just wanna peace be upon me..

    • itsmylife@88

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      A narcissist, a misogynist, a rapist, a pedophile, a lecher, a torturer, a mass murderer, a cult leader, an assassin, a terrorist, a madman and a looter, actually these are the terms being framed by islam haters and then used by islam haters. If there is any truth in these things then bring your proof but remember it must not be from some hate content posted by some anonymous idiots on some filthy websites and then i will tell you what some of the great people(all non muslims) have to say about him.

  • NRN

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    the best thing to do in life is to condemn other, poke fun at others, make life a living hell for others, kill, rob, burn and those who indulge in what i have written earlier is bound to be in hell having a gala time.

    on the contrary those whom love peace, help each other, loves everyone the same will end up in heaven and have a boring life.

    I guess now you all will understand the life purpose of Mr zakir..to have a gala time in hell with his virgins!!!

  • jay

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    Dear my muslim brothers..what is your answer for this holy verses?Naik, because he is a Muslim fanatic, believes that he has to annihilate infidels because The Islamic War Manual, sometimes called the Qur’an, teaches Naik: “Be ruthless to the infidels,”(Sura 48 Verse 29). Also: “Make war on the infidels around you,”(Sura 9 Verse 123 and Sura 66 Verse 9). Also: “Kill the disbelievers wherever you find them,”(Sura 2 Verse 191). “Fight those who believe not Allah nor the Last Day,”(Sura 9 Verse 29). Since Naik is a Muslim fanatic, he would obey The Islamic War Manual, and sooner or later he would clash with all others(Infidels like me)is this not true?plse explain..

    • itsmylife@88

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      Dear brother Jay, please don’t worry, the verses that you are talking about please let me explain one by one in the order as they appear in Quran:

      “Kill the disbelievers wherever you find them(Surah-2,verse 191)” – You forgot to mention the verses that comes before and after this verse, which will explain you the context of this revelation. verse 190 says that “Fight in the cause of allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits..” and Verse-193 says that “..But if they cease, let there be no hostility except to those who practice oppression”.

      Regarding other surahs that you mentioned, let me tell you that these were specifically for that time period when muslims and non-muslims of mecca have a peace treaty but non-muslims broke that treaty and attacked muslims, so it was revealed that muslims must also fight the unbelievers wherever they find them as a self defence measure until non-muslims stop fighting.

      As far as [Surah-48 verse 29] is concerned, let me tell you that this verse is not there in quran, you copied it wrongly from somewhere.

      • itsmylife@88

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        If Quran had been a war manual, then you won’t find such verses in it:

        1) “If thou dost stretch thy hand against me, to slay me, it is not for me to stretch my hand against thee to slay thee: for I do fear God, the cherisher of the worlds. (The Noble Quran, 5:28)”

        2)”…if any one slew a person – unless it be for murder or for spreading mischief in the land – it would be as if he slew the whole people: and if any one saved a life, it would be as if he saved the life of the whole people…(The Noble Quran, 5:32)”

        3)”But if the enemy incline towards peace, do thou (also) incline towards peace, and trust in God: for He is One that heareth and knoweth (all things)..[The Noble Quran 8:61]”

        These verses are the proof that Islam is not a religion for wars but for peace.

      • Ganesh Raj

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        Peace treaty? That was the raid on the Khaibar Jews you ignorant fool!

        Why were pre-pubescent children buried alive in that “defensive” raid? More than 900 people were slaughtered in that raid. Later the Khaibar Jewish women were taken as slaves. The prophet got Rayhana that day, after her husband was totured & murdered.

        This incident can be obtained from the sahih Hadiths, and the actual Quranic verse is 48:20.

    • raksaksa

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      Dear Mr Jay, DO NOT argue with them about verses from the quran or whatever. They consider their holy book is like a rubber band. They can twist it and turn it and come out with wonderful explanation for everything. Find any word in their book, and suddenly it will explain the entire 56 volumes of Isaac Newton’s Principia Mathematica. Just one word mind you. Heck, you quote a verse or just pluck a word and they will tell you it explains the exact spectrometric analysis of the entire sub atomic particles, including and not limited to: Six “flavors” of quarks: up, down, bottom, top, strange, and charm, Six types of leptons: electron, electron neutrino, muon, muon neutrino, tau and the tau neutrino, the twelve gauge bosons (force carriers): the photon of electromagnetism, the three W and Z bosons of the weak force, and the eight gluons of the strong force;
      And also the Higgs boson.Its that good. NOT!!!

  • NRN

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    a small doubt!!!

    Zakir Naik or Zakar Naik??

    cos he is waiting for the promised 72 virgins

  • ROY

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    Difference between Allah’s & Bhagwan’s words!!

    Allah says “Do not try to find me in idols. Worship me as unseen and you will go to heaven.”

    Bhagwan says “You have the freedon to worship me in any form. I am not concerned about that. I am only concerned about the true faith you have for me in your heart.”……………………..……………………..……………………..…………………………

    Allah says “Pray 5 times a day. Only then I will be happy & send you to heaven”.

    Bhagwan says “First take time to accomplish your duties & responsibilities. I’ll be happy if you call my name even a single time in a day with true faith”……………………..……………………..……………………..……………………….

    Allah says “Eat only Halal food & then you will go to heaven”.

    Bhagwan says “I am not concerned about what you eat. However, I’ll be happy if you skip your meal & offer that food to the one who is starving”.
    ……………………..……………………..……………………..……………………..

    Allah says “Kill idolaters wherever you find them. You will go to heaven.” (Mentioned in Quran)

    Bhagwan says “I do not want you to kill my own creations for no reason. However, you have the right to kill someone if he/she is posing a threat to your life, your loved ones’ lives or to the society (which includes Hindus, Muslims & everybody else ).……………………..……………………..……………………..…………………….

    Allah says “Love your fellow Muslims as they are your brothers & sisters. And as for those who are non-muslims & do not believe in Allah, keep yourself away from them as they are Kaafirs”.

    Bhagwan says “Love each and every creation of mine

    • NRN

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      such an explanation roy.

      truly mind blowing. i am in full agreement with you.

      And for the others please take note that Hinduism does not need to be preached as it is under every breath you take.

      Nobody is born a Muslim. You will have the recite the verse

      “???? ?? ?? ??? ??? ???? ????? ?? ???? ???? ????
      Ash-hadu alla ilaha illallah-wa ash-hadu anna Muhammadan abduhu wa rasulullah
      “I bear witness that there is no God except Allah and Muhammad (SAW) is His messenger”.”

      Once the recital is done you will shower to purify yourself.

      But only in Hinduism you are born as one. No converting required. That is why Hinduism is never preached as everyone is born a Hindu and then a creep like ZAKAR NAIK TRIES CONVERTS THEM INTO MUSLIM

      • raksaksa

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        What I like about Hinduism is that it doesn’t command you to defend it, and also to proselytize for it, simply because if you are believing enough of a endlessly powerful super being, it doesn’t need defending nor campaigning, does it? We are mere mortals. Whatever, however big the insult to our gods, it wouldn’t even cause the minutest pain to that force, simply because it is so overwhelming! Which brings us to the unique principles of Hinduism: Dharma, Karma, Yoga and Ahimsa. These features are unique to our religion. Yet, it has been taken over by west and brought into another level! Take the unique concept of “avatara”. Its not found in any other religions, except ours. Yet a Hollywood movie maker takes the concept and makes a movie out of it, that is today the highest grossing movie ever (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0499549/)! In computing, this particular concept (avatar: see http://bit.ly/UqZo0M) has been used liked it was part of computing since the day computing even began! Karma to you my man!

        Again, unique and universal. Now I don’t have to tell you about the principles of yoga. The entire world has taken that and made it into its own (except in muslim countries of course. In Malaysia, its banned for muslims. LOL!) When Martin Luther King was advocating equal rights, he stated that he had studied Ghandi and his philosophies, especially of the Hindu concepts of ahimsa (and satyagraha) (see here: http://bit.ly/UwLhLF). Similarly the concept of “Dharma”. It is so unique and special that the entire Nusantara (the Malay world) made a similar sounding (and approximate meaning) out of it: Derma, which means benevolence (see here: http://bit.ly/QtuA11). Fortuitously, this happened long before the advent of islam (because islam likes to claim that it introduced “charity” to the world).

        There are indeed many, many more unique principles of Hinduism (read also an interesting idea derived from the Hindu concept of the endless cycles of the universe or “yuga” e.g. here: http://nbcnews.to/RP65h9) that are becoming part of the universal world view that none of us can “escape” from. However, what I am saying is that, Hinduism does not need proselytizing. You don’t have to force anyone to accept your philosophies. If the philosophy is right, it will fall into place like a jigsaw puzzle. I end by quoting the venerable Dr. Wayne Dyer, “How people treat you is their karma; how you react is yours.”

    • atheist

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      Great Roy! We are all one! treat everyone the same and love all

    • Mohammed

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      USeless explanation, ur knowledge abt ur religion and islam is ZEROO!!.
      By saying this ur r going against your religion also.
      Next time pls learn some thing abt ur religion at least.

  • Janey

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    GOD Created man ,man created religion..Religion created boundaries….all these things end with “ism” : Hinduism,Islamism,Buddhism,sexism,racism and etc are great at segregating humanity.GOD dont need a religion !!Rulers years back created religion to control the people in the world by fear so that they can control the masses and their country can be managed well…The principle behind religion is that if you commit sin, you will go to hell. So, rulers put it in peoples’ heads that unless they live by a certain set of rules, ‘they are going to hell’. Smart ryte…GOD is only one,we worship GOD in different ways…If you researched carefully u’ll find out that religions evolve from each other….they all appear to have so much in common…for d reason dat its man-made…!! Lets stop fighting and learn to b free-thinkers..There is no need of forcing others to follow a specific path…PATHS MAY B DIFFERENT BUT THE DESTINATION IS THE SAME….

    “The easy confidence with which I know another man’s religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also.”? Mark Twain

  • warmonger

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    Zakir must be having a nice Zakar..he he he.. let the dumbass come and do his thingie..there are bigger things is life like the price of milk powder, other daily sundries, cost of living, petrol prices etc..an ass will never change its he-haws and so be it. It is up to us sensible people to decide, either be a madmen like the Zakar or be normal like the late Tan Sri P. Ramlee.

  • NRN

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    what is the DIFFERENCE between the video of SHAH KIRIT’S VIDEO CONDEMNING HINDUISM AND THE CLIP “INNOCENCE OF MUSLIMS” CONDEMNING ISLAM.

    if “Innocence of Muslim” is wrong the Shah Kirit’s video is wrong as well!!!!!!!

  • GRUTCH

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    After listening to Amat and Samy fighting, Ah Chong came up with this word of wisdom, “Two Wongs cannot make one Light”…the point is, to you, your religion, and to me, mine..no point in comparing..

  • Man peace

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    In the beginning we had racial issues nw condemning god… Y dnt u guys have a life.. Learn to respect each other religion. It’s easier rit?? There is no nessecity 4 u to condemn abt our god…. live a life… If u feel ur way of living is true go ahead..we are nt stopping u…. U dnt have to talk about which religion is doing charity n all.. Learn to rectify ur own flaws before making a comment… Tat Zakir guy or who ever above tat commenting abt our god knows nothing about our god.. It doesnt mean watever he is preaching is true.. If u all wan to knw about our god let an INDIAN to preach nt a fanatic guy. Thanks… Peace..

  • Man peace

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    Innocence of Muslim… If people are protesting against this movie n showing their anger against it.. Than we Indians shud do the same as u people are doing the same thing here… Bt tat is the difference Indians n u fanatic guys… We love to forgive n u guys are living in our forgiveness… Please dnt raise in anger bt take a moment to think… I’m living in America.. N practically people fear of u guys…please let’s live in love n peace….

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    • raksaksa

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      Tell us which American la. You are so pandai! The American must also be so pandai one! Mesti scientist so brilliant kan? Don’t worry, I don’t even own a parang. The gang I join are my brothers and sisters la. And the best I can do is to defend what I wrote with more writing. Unfortunately, I do think that your worth is what you wrote. Help us to help you to make it more la!

      • Nadodi

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  • raksaksa

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    Haha! He is French now? OK. And he is an expert on what people eat and shit. Ok, good start. But, that seems to be all of his scientific background. Anyway, I already knew you were talking about bucaille. His work has already been debunked, and not even by scientist. Even a small child can do it. Even ex muslims have debunked it! All you have to do is to google. Now that is a miracle!

    • Nadodi

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      Gosh!

      I didnt know u r that stupid. Usual Indian stuff. Never can accept someone else good comments. No wonder u guys still sleeps in the slum!.

      Peace to all!

      • raksaksa

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        Haha! Usual muslim stuff. This idiot’s so-called comments were copied (verbatim) from wikipedia (see here: http://bit.ly/RTVYHT) . That is the reason I keep repeating over and over that islam is mental slavery. It completely blocks your mind of the good and creative things that a human brain is capable of! If everyone will note, I’d never plagiarised any material from anywhere, totally unlike the quran itself, which plagiarises from the works of the Jews, Christians, Greeks and so on. Its a plagiarised work, that seeks to condemn everyone not believing in it to hell! That’s just hilariously evil!

        Slum? Everywhere the muslim go, they create slums (e.g. see here: http://bit.ly/P0cZd2).

        • Sick Joke

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          YO
          Dont u ever insult anothers religion. Look wht happenned to Gopi. U dont want to add to the statistic do ya?
          If i want to insult its very much easy for me. In a country as Malaysia learn to respect each other religion as well as each other. If u want to continue then i would say go back to your native country where u create idols based on ur imagination and burn the cow dong and paste it on your forehead.
          U will ooks like a moving piece of shit on ur forehead.Ans then you can talk greeat about your so call gods… lol

    • Vaniee

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      well, if you have been hired by the Saudi Royal family and also by a prominent politician in Saudi, would you publish any findings that may project the Quran as inferior compared to other religious books? I don’t think so..especially if you are being handsomely paid and enjoying perks and privileges by being in association with the royals in Saudi. Couldn’t help noticing that those converts who vouch for the Quran on its credibility are often indebted to Islam and Muslims in some way (greater income, career, status, name in history perhaps?)thus, the only way to show gratitude is to start singing praises…anyway, you know how the world rates the French when it comes to fact findings?

  • Straight Speaker

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    If he is comparing about islam and Hindu. Pls ask him this :

    Have you seen Allah in your eyes? If yes then wish him good luck and if ‘No’ tell him to shut the fuck up and do some other good work.

    All religion feel their god using their own religion practice.He should not compare. keep writing bro

  • Man peace

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    .. IT’SMYLIFE.. I want to knw which part of the country Hindus practice as wat u said above.. Can I ask u y.. In ur religion have polygamy n y the crap they are limited to 4… Let me tell u a fact.. It seems those days had alot of mothers wit kids were abondaned n someone wit social thought married them just to reduce their burden.. Bt then they also had difficulties to take care most of them n tats wen thy decided to limit to 4.. Y 4.. That’s bcos each women get their menstruation 1 time a month so…… That’s y 4….

  • RAJKUMAR PALMANAPHAN

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    Reading this article and seeing that damm video makes me so angry and outrages…but i am educated enough and matured enough not to take my feelings to the street and behave like an animal…whats wrong..lu bikin apa pun takpe wa cakap sikit pun salah..shit lah..

  • GRUTCH

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    Bro Durai, my humble request….just close the comments section for this Post..It’s getting more and more stupid..beyond the normal acceptable level of stupidity of religious fanatics..

  • Muslim

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    @itsmylife@88 you need to stop commenting on this. While I understood your intention, you are not doing anything beneficial here. Instead, you make it worse.

    “..true muslims never change their faith nor stop spreading the message of islam no matter what the consequences are. We only fear our creator.”

    If you really want to preach, you need only to talk about YOUR religion. Comparing religions is not preaching. It’s spreading animosity. Not everybody can do this.
    Set your emotions aside. Learn how to communicate with open mind. Have common sense. Lots of it. You cannot expect people to just agree with you. and don’t even start on “they abuse my religion” you triggered that yourself.

    Help yourself with damage control. Stop this nonsense.

  • loges

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    just have to conclude everything in one way.. everyones religion is like their own mother.. they were born with it.. if you respect your mother you respect love someone else mother..and they will repsect u too…same goes for religion..if u dont respect others religion..its ok..just dont discriminate it..no one has the rights…even God doesnt.. remember GOD is one

  • Straight Speaker

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    Nadodi is the most stupid commentator in this forum. see how many negative response he receive :D stupid wasted sperm :(

  • Vaniee

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    If anyone had taken the effort to watch all Shah Kirit’s clips, you would have noticed that he frequently associates the hindu gods with sex.e.g (Saraswathy and Brahma, Shiva and Nanthi). Shah, I personally don’t think you are stupid or ignorant of Hinduism since you can remember names of the Hindu gods or god-like characters very well. However, you seem to suffer from some extreme level of sexual perverseness. And your imaginations are reflective of the sick mind that you have..nak pendekkan cerita (quoting Shah Kirit)..check yourself into a rehabilitation center for sexual perverseness before it’s too late..it’s an internationally recognized disorder.

  • vandayars

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    Durai, thank you for the article and stimulating the discussion. As we discuss, the 1st talk happened yesterday night in Johor Bahru. – http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.455324391177847.99764.131148860262070&type=1

    My thoughts @ http://iauthored.wordpress.com/2012/09/28/various-texts-d/. And, in Einstein’s words, I too see a clock, but I cannot envision the clockmaker. The human mind is unable to conceive of the four dimensions, so how can it conceive of a God, before whom a thousand years and a thousand dimensions are as one. Nothing more.

  • Narshi

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    WAIT im confused here who’s shah kirit and who’s this zakir naik. are ya talking bout the same person or different?

    • Vaniee

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      Shah kirit is a Malaysian infamous muslim convert who had initially triggered an outrage among the Hindus by his ‘amazing’ story telling abilities regarding hinduism and I believe he is doing it on daily basis. Go on youtube and listen to his explanations. Then, this guy took preaching to another level when he decided to bring his idol- Mr Zakir Naik- another internationally banned muslim preacher who also enjoys thrashing hinduism as a way of ‘menyebarkan syiar Islam’. Thus, the anger was on Shah Kirit and Zakir Naik for what the former has done and what the latter is about to do.Different persons but same old issue..

  • Shaan

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    Well, im blackmetal..atleast we only believe theres ONE lucifer lol

  • Ganesh Raj

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    Read the writing of Dr. Radhasyam Brahmacari. He has done some refutation papers about Zakir Naik.

  • Ex-muslim

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    Bullish,
    In the same way I can say if Allah cannot control his own SAITAN’s will over his own creation that means he himself cannot control everything.

  • suren

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    “Why did Hindus never set out of Indian soil to propogate their religion? It is because they knew it’s not worth” ~words by a missionary in German~

    Reply by Maxmuller: For Hindus, religion is like mother. She is the most beautiful of all. Bhagavadgita says “If you try to prove your worth by propogating the beauty of your mother, the the outside world will see her as a prostitute. Hence propogate the value of your mother by the deed you do called Karma. The value of a mother is known by the deeds done by the child. If your karma is good, then automatically your mother will be the most respected.”

    Churches in Germany banned Maxmuller for saying this and as the result, the entire world rushed madly to India to know more about this religion and Hinduism become the most respected religion of the world.

    (Above was an example given by AC Grayling of Oxford as his reaction to fanatics banning participation of Salman Rushdie at the Jaipur Fest)

    ** This is a post I saw in FB. I thought it’s worth sharing here. So guys just relax. “Ethu nadanthato, athu nandrage nadanthatu. Ethu nadakkiratho, athu nadrage nadakkirathu. Ethu nadakke pogiratho, athu nandragave nadakkum”

  • amnul

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    you guys hate him becuse he is always right.u call him a scumbag u son of a bitch i will whip u asssss into pieces

  • the KHAN

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    my religion is for me and your religion is for you….AND ALLLAH IS SUFFICIENT FOR ME.

    FOR HINDU COWS ARE THEIR GOD HOW FOOLIS HINDU PEOPLE ARE ?? THEY DONT UNDERSTAND THAT
    COW IS JUST AN ANIMAL HAHA
    GAYE(COW) TUMHAREE MATA HAI HUM SAB USKO HALAL KARKE aur uska biryaanee KHATA HAI …..
    HINDU GUYS MAKE THIER OWN GOD FROM SOIL AND STONES ….HAHA
    WAISEE MURTIYAAN KO PUJTE HAI JO APNI UPAR BAITHEE MAKKHEE TAK NHEE BHAGAA SAKTI HAI…
    on the day of judgement ALLAH will ask them(non muslims) to call their gods
    ..their gods will disappear that day bcoz their gods dont exist …

  • Mohammed

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    God as created only one religion.
    In arabic we call it islam
    In english we call it peace

    He(God) has send many messengers or prophets and revelations to all ages, nations and tribes.

    As the time passes the messages are fabricated or changed.

    and one more thing
    In english we call God
    In arabic we call Allah

  • Jacob

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    If we have to pray a single God and this God who is very much fond of male reproductive organs.Who wants half of urethra, I don’t find any divinity in him. More than divinity he might be homosexual cannibal.

  • S.GANEASH

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    No point talking….cause No 1 will ever realize that all religions in the world are mere man made….First of all does God has a religion…What religion does god embraces……sigh…when would mankind realizes the truth…

  • Basil

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    Yay! spammers flushed! XD

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